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There's nothing that can't be worked around or compromised in some way. Even the face scans and ID scans being used today are being circumvented. In the end we

There's nothing that can't be worked around or compromised in some way. Even the face scans and ID scans being used today are being circumvented. In the end we do need parents to parent, but websites should help. The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly.

Gander5739 2mo ago
> The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly. That sounds very similar to the suggestion of the original commenter, that you responded to with >> That just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control.
- autoexec 2mo ago
  I assumed that when he asked "What might those be?" he was talking about privacy preserving ways to address that same false justification. I'm not sure how you took it some other way.
  - Gander5739 2mo ago
    But the commenter's original suggestion, that "apps and websites ... simply include a recommended age", is privacy preserving, no?
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2mo ago
      They didn't say OP's proposal wasn't privacy-preserving, but that preservation of personal privacy is contrary to the actual reason that age checks are being pushed by politicians.
      - Gander5739 2mo ago
        Apologies, then, I misinterpreted > That [solution] just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control.
codedokode 2mo ago
The header must confirm that site is age-appropriate. No header should be interpreted as "adults only". This is the safest option, and it doesn't require 99% of webmasters to do anything which is in my opinion better than any other proposal.
- autoexec 2mo ago
  Exactly. That's the problem I have with the "restricted to adults" header. Ideally the header wouldn't have a "safe for kids" value either because what one parents feels is safe will be very different from what another parent would find appropriate. I think The Internet Content Rating Association had the right idea were the header would show if a site contained specific types of content or not and it was up to parents to decide how much to censor.

Gander5739 2mo ago

> The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly. That sounds very similar to the suggestion of the original commenter, that you responded to with >> That just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control.

autoexec 2mo ago
I assumed that when he asked "What might those be?" he was talking about privacy preserving ways to address that same false justification. I'm not sure how you took it some other way.
- Gander5739 2mo ago
  But the commenter's original suggestion, that "apps and websites ... simply include a recommended age", is privacy preserving, no?
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2mo ago
    They didn't say OP's proposal wasn't privacy-preserving, but that preservation of personal privacy is contrary to the actual reason that age checks are being pushed by politicians.
    - Gander5739 2mo ago
      Apologies, then, I misinterpreted > That [solution] just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control.

codedokode 2mo ago

The header must confirm that site is age-appropriate. No header should be interpreted as "adults only". This is the safest option, and it doesn't require 99% of webmasters to do anything which is in my opinion better than any other proposal.

autoexec 2mo ago
Exactly. That's the problem I have with the "restricted to adults" header. Ideally the header wouldn't have a "safe for kids" value either because what one parents feels is safe will be very different from what another parent would find appropriate. I think The Internet Content Rating Association had the right idea were the header would show if a site contained specific types of content or not and it was up to parents to decide how much to censor.