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FIFA has been monstrously corrupt since at least as far back as the 1970s (Havelange). I backslid this year, but did completely boycott watching in 2018 and 20
by t0mpr1c3 2mo ago
FIFA has been monstrously corrupt since at least as far back as the 1970s (Havelange).
I backslid this year, but did completely boycott watching in 2018 and 2022. Russia is a pariah state and should never have been allowed to host, and Qatar was manifestly unsuitable.
The only difference this year is that the bribery and political favors were out in the open.
- paxys 2mo agoThere are levels to it. Sepp Blatter was notoriously corrupt, but Infantino makes his "envelope full of cash under the table" style of corruption look amateurish.
- t0mpr1c3 2mo agoEven in the festering pit of slime that is FIFA, Infantino stands out for his festeringdom and slimitude.
- Bridged7756 2mo agoRussia a pariah state, as opposed to the US. Good thing freedom won and the US was allowed to host.
- hnarn 2mo agoWhat an excellent example of the most Russian thing of all: whataboutism.
- tchalla 2mo agoWhataboutism doesn’t make the what about claim untrue.
- mcmcmc 2mo ago[dead]
- don_esteban 2mo agoWhataboutism is a word invented to deflect any criticism of western hypocrisy. Like antisemitism, its overuse has rendered it toothless.
- hnarn 2mo agoSo it’s like ”Russophobia”? :-)
- don_esteban 2mo agoEh, Russophobia is also funny, as it is typically applied to those that hate Russia, as opposed to those that fear Russia. "Putin's apologist" as a smear on those who reject the mainstream narrative about Ukraine war (even if highly critical of Russia/Putin) is a better match.
- throw10920 2mo ago> Whataboutism is a word invented to deflect any criticism of western hypocrisy. Factually false. It's a logical fallacy, because you're attempting to manipulate the audience without actually responding to the claim. > Like antisemitism, its overuse has rendered it toothless. Also factually false. "Antisemitism" has no agreed-upon definition. "Whataboutism" has a very concrete and well agreed-upon definition: deflecting a an argument by responding with a counter-accusation that is intended to mirror the perceived accusation. Your whole comment as manipulative, though, so it's not surprising that you would get the definition wrong.
- mcmcmc 2mo agoWhen’s the last time the US forcibly annexed land from a neighboring country? Crimea is Ukrainian
- dghlsakjg 2mo agoThe US has used force to unilaterally remove two heads of state this year, and is enforcing a blockade on Cuba that is wreaking havoc in an attempt to remove a third head of state. That Russia is worse should not shield the US from criticism.
- MYEUHD 2mo agoThe US forcibly annexed Venezuelan oil six months ago
- altermetax 2mo agoI mean, they are trying
- t0mpr1c3 2mo agoThe USA prefers soft annexation. Annexation lite. A kinder gentler annexation. Preferably somewhere with a suitably powerless population like Greenland or Gaza. Randomly shooting up small boats also demonstrates our lawless intentions at limited risk. It's colonialism for cowards. Looks great on social media.
- senderista 2mo agoQatar may not be a pariah state but it should be.
- triceratops 2mo agoWhy?
- senderista 2mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar#Slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar#Slavery
- triceratops 2mo agoYes it's bad. Unfortunately a lot of countries are like this. Until we stop buying oil there's no way to make them change.
- albedoa 2mo ago> Why? >> Slavery > Yes it's bad. Are you just learning about the slavery or did you know about it when you asked why.
- triceratops 2mo agoI knew about it. I also knew Qatar isn't the only one. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafala_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafala_system. So I wondered if it was something else on top of that. Saudi Arabia and the UAE have similar records on human rights and treatment of foreign workers. Further afield there's Mauritania: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritania#Modern_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritania#Modern_slavery
- senderista 2mo agoYes, they all should be pariah states.
- dataengineer56 2mo ago> Qatar was manifestly unsuitable Every stadium was within a 30 mile radius and fans reported a clean, safe experience. Sounds like a good place for a tournament to me.
- bcraven 2mo agoCome on now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_issues_involving_the_2022_FIFA_World_Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_issues_involving_...
- Otek 2mo agoIs it now? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60867042 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60867042 > 50 foreign labourers died and more than 500 others were seriously injured in 2021 alone, while another 37,600 suffered mild to moderate injuries.
- dormento 2mo agoYeah it was a shame all the deaths and human rights abuse happened as well, but hey we can't let that diminish the glory of the world cup /s