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Google wins on infrastructure and creativity (NotebookLM, etc) but entirely lacks product coherence. The ecosystem is a mess, just like Microsoft's offering, an

Google wins on infrastructure and creativity (NotebookLM, etc) but entirely lacks product coherence. The ecosystem is a mess, just like Microsoft's offering, and I don't think this is a coincidence but rather a symptom of the type of company in which these two companies have evolved. Furthermore, Gemini is just all around a less trustworthy and mature model, for many reasons. Very smart but lacking the precision and holistically exhibited in the more recent models from OpenAI and Anthropic. On the flip side, Google's work on Gemma is unmatched.

BodyCulture 3mo ago
Everything would be perfect if only you were CEO of both companies!
- soulofmischief 3mo ago
  What is the purpose of this comment?
- IanCal 3mo ago
  I can say a portrait doesn’t look like a person even if I can’t do better, googles product range is an absolute mess and using it is a nightmare - I don’t know how to fix the company but I know the outcome is bad.
  - annzabelle 3mo ago
    I thought Google was a mess until I started working at a Microsoft shop for the first time. Boy it's astonishing. I've got two versions of Outlook on my computer, neither of which is as quick to load as Thunderbird was 20 years ago. My team uses Azure DevOps for our git forge, which is somehow a completely different product than GitHub. There are multiple versions of Planner in Teams, where the free version's features are not a strict subset of the premium - there are features that are blocked if you pay. The thing that gets me with Google is that they've killed too many products I used daily (RIP Inbox and Google Podcasts) for me to be able to trust that any new offering will exist in 5 years.
    - areoform 3mo ago
      “I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks, and neither one of those are working if you want to remote in and check" Cdr. Reid Wiseman to Mission Control, Artemis II, Earth-Moon Coast.
ChadNauseam 3mo ago
Yeah, something surprising to me was that I can't even add a custom MCP to gemini. It has tons of missing features.

BodyCulture 3mo ago

Everything would be perfect if only you were CEO of both companies!

soulofmischief 3mo ago
What is the purpose of this comment?
IanCal 3mo ago
I can say a portrait doesn’t look like a person even if I can’t do better, googles product range is an absolute mess and using it is a nightmare - I don’t know how to fix the company but I know the outcome is bad.
- annzabelle 3mo ago
  I thought Google was a mess until I started working at a Microsoft shop for the first time. Boy it's astonishing. I've got two versions of Outlook on my computer, neither of which is as quick to load as Thunderbird was 20 years ago. My team uses Azure DevOps for our git forge, which is somehow a completely different product than GitHub. There are multiple versions of Planner in Teams, where the free version's features are not a strict subset of the premium - there are features that are blocked if you pay. The thing that gets me with Google is that they've killed too many products I used daily (RIP Inbox and Google Podcasts) for me to be able to trust that any new offering will exist in 5 years.
  - areoform 3mo ago
    “I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks, and neither one of those are working if you want to remote in and check" Cdr. Reid Wiseman to Mission Control, Artemis II, Earth-Moon Coast.

ChadNauseam 3mo ago

Yeah, something surprising to me was that I can't even add a custom MCP to gemini. It has tons of missing features.