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You just need a very strong frontier model to do triage of your tasks. /s

by odiroot 2mo ago

wmf 2mo ago
That's not necessarily a joke; the article proposes exactly that.
- gck1 2mo ago
  It's funny how codex itself can't do Sol orchestrator / Luna implementor out of the box.
  - apitman 2mo ago
    That's surprising. Does it have no sub agent support at all or does it just use the same agent as the parent?
    - gck1 2mo ago
      They do have subagents, released v2 of that feature with the launch of 5.6 model series in fact. It's just... very poorly executed, is a significant regression from subagents v1 and thousands of miles behind subagents of Claude code. - Models that can be launched as subagents are hardcoded (can only be another Sol or Terra, but not Luna). Most of the time it'll just launch same model as parent anyway. - They encrypt initial task delegation from root agent to subagent, for whatever reason - You can't switch into subagent view at all, despite the fact that apart from initial root>subagent task handoff, all session is visible in transcript.
      - behnamoh 2mo ago
        Which is why I use CLI subprocesses as subagents... Codex in 2026 is still nowhere near where CC was in summer of 2025...
      - killix 2mo ago
        [flagged]
    - theshrike79 2mo ago
      With Claude you can have "use a lower tier subagent when appropriate" in CLAUDE.md and it'll just work. The "smart" agent goes in a busy loop observing the subagent(s) and will confirm their work afterwards. (also you need to gate it with "tell the subagent it's a subagent" and "if you are a subagent, don't spawn subagents" or you'll get a matroshka doll of sonnets all the way down =P ) Codex kinda sorta can launch a subagent, but that's about it.
eli 2mo ago
I mean, yeah. Alternatively I’ve seen the approach of starter with the cheaper/faster model but give it a tool to handoff or talk to a strong model if it gets stuck.

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You just need a very strong frontier model to do triage of your tasks. /s

by odiroot 2mo ago

You just need a very strong frontier model to do triage of your tasks. /s

wmf 2mo ago
That's not necessarily a joke; the article proposes exactly that.
- gck1 2mo ago
  It's funny how codex itself can't do Sol orchestrator / Luna implementor out of the box.
  - apitman 2mo ago
    That's surprising. Does it have no sub agent support at all or does it just use the same agent as the parent?
    - gck1 2mo ago
      They do have subagents, released v2 of that feature with the launch of 5.6 model series in fact. It's just... very poorly executed, is a significant regression from subagents v1 and thousands of miles behind subagents of Claude code. - Models that can be launched as subagents are hardcoded (can only be another Sol or Terra, but not Luna). Most of the time it'll just launch same model as parent anyway. - They encrypt initial task delegation from root agent to subagent, for whatever reason - You can't switch into subagent view at all, despite the fact that apart from initial root>subagent task handoff, all session is visible in transcript.
      - behnamoh 2mo ago
        Which is why I use CLI subprocesses as subagents... Codex in 2026 is still nowhere near where CC was in summer of 2025...
      - killix 2mo ago
        [flagged]
    - theshrike79 2mo ago
      With Claude you can have "use a lower tier subagent when appropriate" in CLAUDE.md and it'll just work. The "smart" agent goes in a busy loop observing the subagent(s) and will confirm their work afterwards. (also you need to gate it with "tell the subagent it's a subagent" and "if you are a subagent, don't spawn subagents" or you'll get a matroshka doll of sonnets all the way down =P ) Codex kinda sorta can launch a subagent, but that's about it.
eli 2mo ago
I mean, yeah. Alternatively I’ve seen the approach of starter with the cheaper/faster model but give it a tool to handoff or talk to a strong model if it gets stuck.