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I typically do the same thing. I only wear sunscreen if I am planning on being in direct sun for an extended period of time where I can't easily get back in the

I typically do the same thing. I only wear sunscreen if I am planning on being in direct sun for an extended period of time where I can't easily get back in the shade. The more you're able to build up a base tan the less you need it to avoid a burn at least.

JoshGlazebrook 2mo ago
So we're just out here perpetuating myths on here now as well?
- brightball 2mo ago
  Correction - The less you need it to avoid a burn.
NikolaNovak 2mo ago
Isn't tanning basically body's reaction to cellular damage? It reduces further damage but that's due to damage done? (It's largely irrelevant to myself, I pretty much burn immediately and don't / can't really tan, but my wife and her family tan well).
- brightball 2mo ago
  30 years ago I was a lifeguard and got to experiment with this some. I can't tell you the biology specifically, but I have always tanned quickly. The less tan I am, the more easily I burn. Always been that way for me at least.
- worldsavior 2mo ago
  The damage gets healed at sleep. Tanning reduces the need to heal.
- HedonicEscal8r 2mo ago
  Yes, tanning is downstream of the activity of the p53 tumor suppressor protein in response to UVB-induced damage: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EFiCGc3YwadZBzvZ3/contra-byrnes-on-uv-and-cancer https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EFiCGc3YwadZBzvZ3/contra-byr...
vondur 2mo ago
I'm pretty light skinned and the burn pretty easily. I just put on sunscreen by default when going hiking/mountain biking. I'm really excited for the new sunscreens coming out here in the US that have those new to us ingredients that the Euro's have had forever.
- brightball 2mo ago
  Agreed completely. I also leverage sun shirts quite a bit.
  - nomel 2mo ago
    I discovered sun shirts very recently, with a hood. It's so much nicer to slip it on than apply sun block, which I'm trying to reduce since I don't really want it in my blood stream [1]. Mine is white, so I usually end up a bit cooler than without! [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2733085?guestAccessKey=e1ad4492-fe70-4f53-970d-d63bfa1cdccd&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=05062019 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2733085?gu...
stevekemp 2mo ago
I'm a pale-skinned redhead, covered in freckles. For me there is no such thing as a "base tan". I get can get sunburnt from as little as 30 minutes in the sun at times, and I almost always wear sunscreen in the summer for that reason. (Biggest issue is wearing sandals and forgetting to cover my feet, or when jumping in the lake after sauna and not covering up again quickly enough.)

JoshGlazebrook 2mo ago

So we're just out here perpetuating myths on here now as well?

brightball 2mo ago
Correction - The less you need it to avoid a burn.

NikolaNovak 2mo ago

Isn't tanning basically body's reaction to cellular damage? It reduces further damage but that's due to damage done? (It's largely irrelevant to myself, I pretty much burn immediately and don't / can't really tan, but my wife and her family tan well).

brightball 2mo ago
30 years ago I was a lifeguard and got to experiment with this some. I can't tell you the biology specifically, but I have always tanned quickly. The less tan I am, the more easily I burn. Always been that way for me at least.
worldsavior 2mo ago
The damage gets healed at sleep. Tanning reduces the need to heal.
HedonicEscal8r 2mo ago
Yes, tanning is downstream of the activity of the p53 tumor suppressor protein in response to UVB-induced damage: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EFiCGc3YwadZBzvZ3/contra-byrnes-on-uv-and-cancer https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/EFiCGc3YwadZBzvZ3/contra-byr...

vondur 2mo ago

I'm pretty light skinned and the burn pretty easily. I just put on sunscreen by default when going hiking/mountain biking. I'm really excited for the new sunscreens coming out here in the US that have those new to us ingredients that the Euro's have had forever.

brightball 2mo ago
Agreed completely. I also leverage sun shirts quite a bit.
- nomel 2mo ago
  I discovered sun shirts very recently, with a hood. It's so much nicer to slip it on than apply sun block, which I'm trying to reduce since I don't really want it in my blood stream [1]. Mine is white, so I usually end up a bit cooler than without! [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2733085?guestAccessKey=e1ad4492-fe70-4f53-970d-d63bfa1cdccd&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=05062019 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2733085?gu...

stevekemp 2mo ago

I'm a pale-skinned redhead, covered in freckles. For me there is no such thing as a "base tan". I get can get sunburnt from as little as 30 minutes in the sun at times, and I almost always wear sunscreen in the summer for that reason. (Biggest issue is wearing sandals and forgetting to cover my feet, or when jumping in the lake after sauna and not covering up again quickly enough.)