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It would have helped to write that when talking about the review.

lapcat 2mo ago
Not really. It's a red herring. Suppose for the sake of argument that every review in the App Store for every app was like the one in the screenshot, a complaint about ratings requests. How would that be helpful? How would anyone know whether, aside from the ratings requests, the apps were any good or not? How would those be good reviews? You might defend the reviews as accurate and justified, but they would still be largely useless, because they're so narrowly focused. I'm happy to receive 5 star reviews for my apps, but honestly, some of those are poorly written too, overly vague, or too narrowly focused, occasionally inaccurate, claiming my app does something it doesn't actually do! The underlying point, though, is that Apple is relying on user reviews as a poor substitute to cover up its own shortcomings in reviewing app submissions. If an app doesn't do what it says, or it's user-hostile in some ways, how are those apps even getting through to the store in the first place?
- tensor 2mo ago
  The only thing I agree with you about is that I'd have preferred Apple to not have approved your app because of the nag. I don't care if it's a screen or just a constant message. It's a nag.
  - lapcat 2mo ago
    So... you want Apple to remove practically every app from the App Store? Or how exactly do you think my app is unique in the this way?
    - shaewest 2mo ago
      Are you against Apple removing apps with dark patterns from the App Store because 'Everyone does it'? Adding requirements for apps to remain on the App Store is fully reasonable, and keens the ecosystem usable for users.
      - lapcat 2mo ago
        > Are you against Apple removing apps with dark patterns from the App Store because 'Everyone does it'? Are you in favor of Apple removing everyone from the App Store? > Adding requirements for apps to remain on the App Store is fully reasonable, and keens the ecosystem usable for users. Apple created a developer API to request ratings and reviews. Apple 100% approves of and encourages the practice. Indeed, Apple's own apps in the App Store request ratings and reviews.
        shaewest 2mo ago
        > Are you in favor of Apple removing everyone from the App Store? You make the assumption that it's not in everyone's best economic interest to follow the rules. People will change before they are all removed. > Apple created a developer API to request ratings and reviews. Apple 100% approves of and encourages the practice. Indeed, Apple's own apps in the App Store request ratings and reviews. And they added various limitations to this API to prevent bad actors, which clearly is being worked around by enough apps that it makes sense to enforce this more.

Not really. It's a red herring. Suppose for the sake of argument that every review in the App Store for every app was like the one in the screenshot, a complaint about ratings requests. How would that be helpful? How would anyone know whether, aside from the ratings requests, the apps were any good or not? How would those be good reviews? You might defend the reviews as accurate and justified, but they would still be largely useless, because they're so narrowly focused. I'm happy to receive 5 star reviews for my apps, but honestly, some of those are poorly written too, overly vague, or too narrowly focused, occasionally inaccurate, claiming my app does something it doesn't actually do! The underlying point, though, is that Apple is relying on user reviews as a poor substitute to cover up its own shortcomings in reviewing app submissions. If an app doesn't do what it says, or it's user-hostile in some ways, how are those apps even getting through to the store in the first place?

tensor 2mo ago
The only thing I agree with you about is that I'd have preferred Apple to not have approved your app because of the nag. I don't care if it's a screen or just a constant message. It's a nag.
- lapcat 2mo ago
  So... you want Apple to remove practically every app from the App Store? Or how exactly do you think my app is unique in the this way?
  - shaewest 2mo ago
    Are you against Apple removing apps with dark patterns from the App Store because 'Everyone does it'? Adding requirements for apps to remain on the App Store is fully reasonable, and keens the ecosystem usable for users.
    - lapcat 2mo ago
      > Are you against Apple removing apps with dark patterns from the App Store because 'Everyone does it'? Are you in favor of Apple removing everyone from the App Store? > Adding requirements for apps to remain on the App Store is fully reasonable, and keens the ecosystem usable for users. Apple created a developer API to request ratings and reviews. Apple 100% approves of and encourages the practice. Indeed, Apple's own apps in the App Store request ratings and reviews.
      - shaewest 2mo ago
        > Are you in favor of Apple removing everyone from the App Store? You make the assumption that it's not in everyone's best economic interest to follow the rules. People will change before they are all removed. > Apple created a developer API to request ratings and reviews. Apple 100% approves of and encourages the practice. Indeed, Apple's own apps in the App Store request ratings and reviews. And they added various limitations to this API to prevent bad actors, which clearly is being worked around by enough apps that it makes sense to enforce this more.