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A lawyer who has, in the past, said only property owners and people with at least two grandparents born in the US should be allowed to vote (which excludes him

A lawyer who has, in the past, said only property owners and people with at least two grandparents born in the US should be allowed to vote (which excludes him by the second criteria). He's been an advocate for disenfranchisement for a while now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46885305 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46885305

TimorousBestie 3mo ago
I do believe the “we have to strip voting rights from the poor in order to save the poor” framing expressed in this thread is new, however.
- Jtsummers 3mo ago
  It is new, but it's not that surprising given his stated positions in the past.
- rayiner 3mo ago
  If you think poor people know what’s best for them, how do you think we should decide vaccine schedules for kids? We should have online voting on it with universal franchise, right? We have the technology now. If you don’t agree we should do that, explain why you think we should gatekeep such an important decision instead of letting people decide what’s best for them?
  - TimorousBestie 3mo ago
    Sorry, did you intend to link this reply to a different comment?
rayiner 3mo ago
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- Jtsummers 3mo ago
  I'm just pointing out that you have advocated, repeatedly, for the disenfranchisement of people (including yourself, which leads to a question: Do you practice your current right to vote, or stand by your conviction that you don't deserve that right and so don't vote?. And your plan for disenfranchisement includes cutting you off from the vote, but not your children, but could disenfranchise your grandchildren. How that'd work: You were not born in the US (per many, many past comments you've made here). Your wife was (also per many, many comments). Your parents were not, but your wife's parents were, so your children get the right to vote (they have two grandparents born in the US). If your child marries an immigrant or the child of immigrants, then their children would be deprived of the right to vote despite the fact that one of their parents had the right to vote. Your grandchildren would only have 1 grandparent (your wife, their grandmother) born in the US, so you think they wouldn't deserve the right to vote. How is this possibly a reasonable system? Have you told your children yet that if they don't marry the right kind of people that you don't think their children (your own grandchildren) deserve the right to vote? You're no better than the Jim Crow pushers of old.
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TimorousBestie 3mo ago

I do believe the “we have to strip voting rights from the poor in order to save the poor” framing expressed in this thread is new, however.

Jtsummers 3mo ago
It is new, but it's not that surprising given his stated positions in the past.
rayiner 3mo ago
If you think poor people know what’s best for them, how do you think we should decide vaccine schedules for kids? We should have online voting on it with universal franchise, right? We have the technology now. If you don’t agree we should do that, explain why you think we should gatekeep such an important decision instead of letting people decide what’s best for them?
- TimorousBestie 3mo ago
  Sorry, did you intend to link this reply to a different comment?

rayiner 3mo ago

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Jtsummers 3mo ago
I'm just pointing out that you have advocated, repeatedly, for the disenfranchisement of people (including yourself, which leads to a question: Do you practice your current right to vote, or stand by your conviction that you don't deserve that right and so don't vote?. And your plan for disenfranchisement includes cutting you off from the vote, but not your children, but could disenfranchise your grandchildren. How that'd work: You were not born in the US (per many, many past comments you've made here). Your wife was (also per many, many comments). Your parents were not, but your wife's parents were, so your children get the right to vote (they have two grandparents born in the US). If your child marries an immigrant or the child of immigrants, then their children would be deprived of the right to vote despite the fact that one of their parents had the right to vote. Your grandchildren would only have 1 grandparent (your wife, their grandmother) born in the US, so you think they wouldn't deserve the right to vote. How is this possibly a reasonable system? Have you told your children yet that if they don't marry the right kind of people that you don't think their children (your own grandchildren) deserve the right to vote? You're no better than the Jim Crow pushers of old.
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