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I read through this and must have missed it, but I don't see a single example of AI use in the Linux kernel development posing a problem.
by datakan 2mo ago
I read through this and must have missed it, but I don't see a single example of AI use in the Linux kernel development posing a problem.
- NewJazz 2mo agoTens of thousands of people dying as a direct result of global warming! Not a problem! /s
- datakan 2mo agoNo ones dead because Linux devs prompted a chat bot
- YorickPeterse 2mo agoNo one is dead because I launched a nuclear missile. That doesn't mean I _should_ be given access to a nuclear missile.
- NewJazz 2mo agoTemperatures during heat waves are exceeding 50°C in India, causing tens thousands of deaths. The AI built-out is by far the fastest growing energy consumer in the world, and they’re being built with fossil fuels, or drawing green energy demand away from replacing the fossil fuels depended on by other industries.
- HexDecOctBin 2mo agoI hate how this ostentatious caring for Indians is used to push personal political goals. Want to help with global warming? Reduce your consumption. Stop driving, stop eating non-local food, stop buying things made off-shores or with supply chains that require global shipping. Move to a much poorer country (or just a poorer neighbourhood of your country) and live the way people there live. It seems like for much of Western world, Indians aren't really humans but a giant undifferentiated mass of temporarily animated bodies that are fit only as a canvas for one's own political paintwork.
- NewJazz 2mo agoWhat makes you think I don't do all that stuff?
- 9x39 2mo agohttps://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by... Share of global CO2: China 33% US 12% India 8% Russia 5% Japan 3% History didn't start in the last 12 months.
- garbageman 2mo agoExactly. When I change my engine oil, I just dump it into the street for the same reason - nobody is dying from my actions directly.
- ch71r22 2mo agoThe article isn't trying to find a particular example. It's talking about the overall stance of Linux on AI use. It argues that maintainers should consider political/moral/ethical arguments around climate change, effect on water supplies, energy prices, etc.
- gen2brain 2mo agoWhy not fix all the issues with private jets and yachts first? Why don't they use regular public transportation as we all do? Instead, let's bash poor Clanker, who reviews kernel code.
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- atemerev 2mo agoAI is just a tech like any other. Can be powered by CO2-neutral electricity like anything else. Otherwise, we'll have to protest against aluminum cans, airplanes, golf courts, lemon trees, and whatever else that uses water or electricity.
- ch71r22 2mo agoThat's a false equivalence. AI is not the same as aluminum cans. All technologies have political, social, ethical, and economic aspects, and not all technologies are the same. AI is not, in reality, powered by CO2-neutral electricity. As the article mentions, AI is the fastest-growing energy user in the world, so it probably merits a deeper look than aluminum cans.
- Legend2440 2mo agoAI is also an incredibly useful tool that could automate many industries, so it deserves some leeway because of the benefits it provides. And while it is 'fastest-growing', it is small as an absolute share - around 0.2% of total world CO2 emissions.
- koolala 2mo agoThe thing I'd worry about is it slowly handing over control of Linux's direction to the tech companies who control and regulate the AI being used to help develop it. The complexity is only growing. These companies are themselves extremely political and decide what AI is and isn't legal when Linux demands using the most capable models for security reasons. So it would be good at least if the project actually cared and had it's own principles besides ignoring the politics.
- datakan 2mo agoBut the code being GPL means those companies don't have control over it. They can restrict the use of AI but the codes already generated, they would just go back to writing by hand. Its a non-issue. The same objection came up when Microsoft started contributing to the kernel. And despite the author’s logical leaps; no it's not impossible to fork the kernel and go another route. The fact it doesn't happen is because its stewardship so far has been exceptional. It's not a political issue. It's a religious one with the anti AI people raising pitchforks.