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Because there's literally only one comment by one rich dude! No need to look at any further evidence, case closed!

by Timon3 2mo ago

vrganj 2mo ago
Yeah ignore the Oracle CEO saying everyone will be on their best behavior because AI surveillance will keep people in check [0]. Or Thiel saying that "democracy and freedom are no longer compatible". I wonder who's freedom to do what he's talking about? Surely he's concerned about the little man? [1] Or Elon Musk cutting USAID and causing all sorts of death and destruction around the world [2] while enriching himself from government coffers. [3] Or Marc Andreessen calling the concept of "social responsibility" an "enemy of progress". [4] Sure wonder what his idea of progress is! I'm sure it's great for everyone given that it's opposed to even the notion of social responsibility! And that's just in our little tech world! If you venture out a bit further, you'll find many more gems, like Tim Gurner complaining that workers have gotten "arrogant" and continuing to say: "We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around." [5] Sure, it's all just one rich dude making an offhand comment. Or maybe all of them making offhand comments all the time? [0] https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/16/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-says-that-ai-will-someday-track-your-every-move/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/16/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-s... [1] https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/ https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/07/elon-musk-doge-cuts-usaid-ebola https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/07/elon-musk... [3] https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/13/business/musk-trillionaire-government-tesla-spacex https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/13/business/musk-trillionair... [4] https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/ https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/ [5] https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1701658625280704599 https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1701658625280704599
- senordevnyc 2mo ago
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  - vrganj 2mo ago
    How many people in that position are there even? Global reach tech oligarchs? Maybe like 10? That'd make four 40% and that was just a small sampling. And you know as well as I do the others sound the same. I'm sure you can find Alex Karp, Mark Zuckerberg etc saying similarly despicable things. At this point it takes actively closing one's eyes to the reality in front of us. There doesn't need to be a secret meeting with smoke-filled rooms and passwords (though ironically I guess Thiel's "Dialog" actually sounds like that?!). Good ol' class interest is sufficient to explain all of it without extra coordination.
    - senordevnyc 2mo ago
      There are 3500 billionaires in the world, and 30k centimillionaires.
      - vrganj 2mo ago
        And how many of them are leaders of the US tech industry with global tech empires? C'mon man, stop moving the goalposts.
        senordevnyc 2mo ago
        Your comment that I responded to said this: How much more evidence do we need that there is in fact a class war going on and the rich are winning? You framed the goalposts in terms of "the rich", not "leaders of US tech industry with global tech empires".
  - Timon3 2mo ago
    You know very well that this is not the totality of available evidence. Why do you expect others to waste their time compiling a list you'll keep jokingly dismissing? If you're serious you could give a specific threshold others could meet, but as-is this kind of trolling is not what this place is meant for.

Because there's literally only one comment by one rich dude! No need to look at any further evidence, case closed!

by Timon3 2mo ago

Because there's literally only one comment by one rich dude! No need to look at any further evidence, case closed!

Yeah ignore the Oracle CEO saying everyone will be on their best behavior because AI surveillance will keep people in check [0]. Or Thiel saying that "democracy and freedom are no longer compatible". I wonder who's freedom to do what he's talking about? Surely he's concerned about the little man? [1] Or Elon Musk cutting USAID and causing all sorts of death and destruction around the world [2] while enriching himself from government coffers. [3] Or Marc Andreessen calling the concept of "social responsibility" an "enemy of progress". [4] Sure wonder what his idea of progress is! I'm sure it's great for everyone given that it's opposed to even the notion of social responsibility! And that's just in our little tech world! If you venture out a bit further, you'll find many more gems, like Tim Gurner complaining that workers have gotten "arrogant" and continuing to say: "We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around." [5] Sure, it's all just one rich dude making an offhand comment. Or maybe all of them making offhand comments all the time? [0] https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/16/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-says-that-ai-will-someday-track-your-every-move/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/16/oracle-ceo-larry-ellison-s... [1] https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/ https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/07/elon-musk-doge-cuts-usaid-ebola https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/07/elon-musk... [3] https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/13/business/musk-trillionaire-government-tesla-spacex https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/13/business/musk-trillionair... [4] https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/ https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/ [5] https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1701658625280704599 https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1701658625280704599

senordevnyc 2mo ago
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- vrganj 2mo ago
  How many people in that position are there even? Global reach tech oligarchs? Maybe like 10? That'd make four 40% and that was just a small sampling. And you know as well as I do the others sound the same. I'm sure you can find Alex Karp, Mark Zuckerberg etc saying similarly despicable things. At this point it takes actively closing one's eyes to the reality in front of us. There doesn't need to be a secret meeting with smoke-filled rooms and passwords (though ironically I guess Thiel's "Dialog" actually sounds like that?!). Good ol' class interest is sufficient to explain all of it without extra coordination.
  - senordevnyc 2mo ago
    There are 3500 billionaires in the world, and 30k centimillionaires.
    - vrganj 2mo ago
      And how many of them are leaders of the US tech industry with global tech empires? C'mon man, stop moving the goalposts.
      - senordevnyc 2mo ago
        Your comment that I responded to said this: How much more evidence do we need that there is in fact a class war going on and the rich are winning? You framed the goalposts in terms of "the rich", not "leaders of US tech industry with global tech empires".
- Timon3 2mo ago
  You know very well that this is not the totality of available evidence. Why do you expect others to waste their time compiling a list you'll keep jokingly dismissing? If you're serious you could give a specific threshold others could meet, but as-is this kind of trolling is not what this place is meant for.