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None of this requires internet connection.

• lazide 3mo ago
  How do you expect your typical mobile app to work through NAT, etc. without an internet connection? For your typical ‘dumb’ home user, anyway?
  • egorfine 3mo ago
    It should not. There is exactly zero reason for all this data to leave the premises. > For your typical ‘dumb’ home user Well, yeah. That's the problem. There is no explanation to the dumb user why this stat is only available while connected to home network.
    • quietsegfault 3mo ago
      My solar production data is fed to my ISO so I can sell clean energy vouchers. My solar installer just called me the other day asking if I had a tree shading a panel, because production on that panel was low. There are plenty of reasons to have internet connected solar equipment.
      • egorfine 3mo ago
        Outbound connection to your provider with stats? Good. Random connection to any IP especially on China territory? Absolutely not.
        • inigyou 3mo ago
          But that IP is your provider, and the data being sent is stats.
          • lazide 3mo ago
            How do you know that, or can predict it?
  • fuzzfactor 3mo ago
    Regardless of broadband existing or not, there was never supposed to be an abscence of dial-up.
  • inigyou 3mo ago
    Using IPv6! But also we should ban IPv6 because of security! Letting devices connect to each other without bouncing through a central server is a security risk! (This is a popular opinion on HN)