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You can't really develop a kernel-mode driver nowadays without being an incredibly large OEM. Otherwise, you won't be accepted by any anti-cheat.

Maakuth 3mo ago
An anti-cheat app would probably be quite surprised to find it's running on Windows 95 anyway.
ChocolateGod 3mo ago
Wireguard...
- grim_io 3mo ago
  Wireguard is blessed by Microsoft, who sign their drivers.
- not_a9 3mo ago
  Sandboxie/WinFSP/KVM guest drivers for Windows are open source too I’m sure there are more open source examples. A newer one is https://github.com/namazso/PawnIO/tree/master https://github.com/namazso/PawnIO/tree/master I guess?
Almondsetat 3mo ago
So we should throw away the possibility entirely just because of a few videogames? That doesn't sound reasonable at all, considering most videogames don't have anti cheats and GPUs can be used for way more stuff than playing.
- userbinator 3mo ago
  Exactly, being able to use a local LLM or other generative AI on a machine running Win95 would itself be sufficiently entertaining.
not_a9 3mo ago
If anti-cheats actively whitelisted drivers playing competitive video games would be impossible for people using any rarer HW/utilities. Vulnerable drivers are generally blacklisted when found. Getting your driver signed seems like a pain these days, yeah
- nananana9 3mo ago
  I'm inclined to believe this is exactly what happens, given that both Bluetooth and my printer stopped working the last time I tried playing a Riot game. Also got a BSOD in vgk.sys, and it left a bunch of junk in my EFI partition after I uninstalled it. Fun times.
- LoganDark 3mo ago
  Maybe drivers are treated differently, but I remember having to update Windows 11 to play ARC Raiders because my specific version was old enough that system files did not pass their whitelist check. It told me which system file failed the check - I don't remember which it was exactly, but it definitely wasn't one that'd ever been modified, just one that wasn't recent enough it seems, at least going off of how updating fixed it.
- inigyou 3mo ago
  Yes this is how they work. You use a mainstream GPU or no game for you!
  - not_a9 3mo ago
    Throw a lawn dart at the contents of https://vx-underground.org/Archive/Driver%20Collection/Bulk%20Downloads https://vx-underground.org/Archive/Driver%20Collection/Bulk%... all drivers download, load the resulting driver and try to get into Fortnite or something. It'll probably get in fine assuming driver isn't Unknowncheats superstar already

Maakuth 3mo ago

An anti-cheat app would probably be quite surprised to find it's running on Windows 95 anyway.

ChocolateGod 3mo ago

Wireguard...

grim_io 3mo ago
Wireguard is blessed by Microsoft, who sign their drivers.
not_a9 3mo ago
Sandboxie/WinFSP/KVM guest drivers for Windows are open source too I’m sure there are more open source examples. A newer one is https://github.com/namazso/PawnIO/tree/master https://github.com/namazso/PawnIO/tree/master I guess?

Almondsetat 3mo ago

So we should throw away the possibility entirely just because of a few videogames? That doesn't sound reasonable at all, considering most videogames don't have anti cheats and GPUs can be used for way more stuff than playing.

userbinator 3mo ago
Exactly, being able to use a local LLM or other generative AI on a machine running Win95 would itself be sufficiently entertaining.

not_a9 3mo ago

If anti-cheats actively whitelisted drivers playing competitive video games would be impossible for people using any rarer HW/utilities. Vulnerable drivers are generally blacklisted when found. Getting your driver signed seems like a pain these days, yeah

nananana9 3mo ago
I'm inclined to believe this is exactly what happens, given that both Bluetooth and my printer stopped working the last time I tried playing a Riot game. Also got a BSOD in vgk.sys, and it left a bunch of junk in my EFI partition after I uninstalled it. Fun times.
LoganDark 3mo ago
Maybe drivers are treated differently, but I remember having to update Windows 11 to play ARC Raiders because my specific version was old enough that system files did not pass their whitelist check. It told me which system file failed the check - I don't remember which it was exactly, but it definitely wasn't one that'd ever been modified, just one that wasn't recent enough it seems, at least going off of how updating fixed it.
inigyou 3mo ago
Yes this is how they work. You use a mainstream GPU or no game for you!
- not_a9 3mo ago
  Throw a lawn dart at the contents of https://vx-underground.org/Archive/Driver%20Collection/Bulk%20Downloads https://vx-underground.org/Archive/Driver%20Collection/Bulk%... all drivers download, load the resulting driver and try to get into Fortnite or something. It'll probably get in fine assuming driver isn't Unknowncheats superstar already