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Is that so? I feel like I’m seeing more Python and TypeScript than ever, especially when it comes to AI tooling, which is disappointing. I can’t fathom why any

by cedws 2mo ago

Is that so? I feel like I’m seeing more Python and TypeScript than ever, especially when it comes to AI tooling, which is disappointing. I can’t fathom why anybody would want to continue working with dynamically typed languages when they can now get types for free.

dannyw 2mo ago
I suspect a lot of the Python and TypeScript code is getting prompted by folks who don't know any difference between dynamically typed and statically typed.
esikich 2mo ago
In the early days of LLM coding, it seemed to be much better at Python for whatever reason. I was never a big Python guy, but I got better results so I ran with it. That definitely doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Last week I asked Codex to mash up Super Mario Bros and Contra ROMs and it just did everything in straight assembly and absolutely crushed it. It couldn't do that 2 years ago. Python is just momentum and I think it's going to die down now that the models are much better.
- Barbing 2mo ago
  Don’t want Nintendo to sue you (over [a] game/s you may well actually own!) so withhold my follow-up :)
  - esikich 2mo ago
    Huh?
    - Barbing 2mo ago
      > I asked Codex to mash up Super Mario Bros and Contra ROMs Did this create a new game? And did you publish the result? Might’ve misunderstood.
      - esikich 2mo ago
        No, of course I didn't publish it.
        Barbing 2mo ago
        Of course not.
- newswasboring 2mo ago
  What does mashing up roms mean? Like use sprites of one game in another or something like that?
tick_tock_tick 2mo ago
Almost all my tool/skill scripts are in python purely because the standard library has almost everything under the sun in it.
- schrodinger 2mo ago
  Are you familiar with the Go standard library? It’s notorious for its comprehensiveness and how often you can write zero dependency applications as a result. And there’s a reason: the Go designers were huge Python fans, so leaned on its design quite a bit. They essentially wanted to make a modern Python with first class support for static typing and highly scalable parallelism, not just concurrency.
  - schrodinger 2mo ago
    It's too late to edit, but in retrospect I realize that the first sentence of that comment sounded awfully snarky, and I didn't mean it to. I apologize, and please trust it was asked in good faith.
schrodinger 2mo ago
Fully agree with you, and I didn't make my point well — I should have been more clear. While Python and Node have undoubtedly seen a huge spike since the advent of mainstream AI, relatively recently I've begun to notice a small but growing trend of people switching away from or back to languages like Go and Rust. In an absolute sense, yes, Python is still dominating and growing. The trend I have noticed is a very small but growing cohort of folks who are coming back to languages like Go and Rust.

by cedws 2mo ago

dannyw 2mo ago

I suspect a lot of the Python and TypeScript code is getting prompted by folks who don't know any difference between dynamically typed and statically typed.

esikich 2mo ago

In the early days of LLM coding, it seemed to be much better at Python for whatever reason. I was never a big Python guy, but I got better results so I ran with it. That definitely doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Last week I asked Codex to mash up Super Mario Bros and Contra ROMs and it just did everything in straight assembly and absolutely crushed it. It couldn't do that 2 years ago. Python is just momentum and I think it's going to die down now that the models are much better.

Barbing 2mo ago
Don’t want Nintendo to sue you (over [a] game/s you may well actually own!) so withhold my follow-up :)
- esikich 2mo ago
  Huh?
  - Barbing 2mo ago
    > I asked Codex to mash up Super Mario Bros and Contra ROMs Did this create a new game? And did you publish the result? Might’ve misunderstood.
    - esikich 2mo ago
      No, of course I didn't publish it.
      - Barbing 2mo ago
        Of course not.
newswasboring 2mo ago
What does mashing up roms mean? Like use sprites of one game in another or something like that?

tick_tock_tick 2mo ago

Almost all my tool/skill scripts are in python purely because the standard library has almost everything under the sun in it.

schrodinger 2mo ago
Are you familiar with the Go standard library? It’s notorious for its comprehensiveness and how often you can write zero dependency applications as a result. And there’s a reason: the Go designers were huge Python fans, so leaned on its design quite a bit. They essentially wanted to make a modern Python with first class support for static typing and highly scalable parallelism, not just concurrency.
- schrodinger 2mo ago
  It's too late to edit, but in retrospect I realize that the first sentence of that comment sounded awfully snarky, and I didn't mean it to. I apologize, and please trust it was asked in good faith.

schrodinger 2mo ago

Fully agree with you, and I didn't make my point well — I should have been more clear. While Python and Node have undoubtedly seen a huge spike since the advent of mainstream AI, relatively recently I've begun to notice a small but growing trend of people switching away from or back to languages like Go and Rust. In an absolute sense, yes, Python is still dominating and growing. The trend I have noticed is a very small but growing cohort of folks who are coming back to languages like Go and Rust.