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Just tried K3 out for the first time today and it's a legitimate threat. Temporarily (maybe permanently) using it as my daily driver but it's wild how comparab

by rglover 3mo ago

Just tried K3 out for the first time today and it's a legitimate threat. Temporarily (maybe permanently) using it as my daily driver but it's wild how comparable it is to Opus 4.7/4.8 (what's been my go to for a bit now—wrote a quick post on what I found today [1]). [1] https://graybearding.bearblog.dev/kimi-k3-is-insane/ https://graybearding.bearblog.dev/kimi-k3-is-insane/

kroaton 3mo ago
Better than Opus 4.8 on complex tasks but tends to overthink. It found a bunch of bugs and architecture issues that only 5.6 Sol Max and Fable on my C++ projects.
ATMLOTTOBEER 3mo ago
Agreed. Dropped my $200/mo Claude I was saturating for the $100/mo moonshot sub and have no complaints Plus I can actually see the thinking traces and I’m not getting downgraded/denied by anthropic constsntly…
- nmfisher 3mo ago
  How much usage do you get out of the $100 Moonshot plan? I haven't heard great things.
  - KronisLV 3mo ago
    For me it got exhausted faster than I'd like, subjectively less value than the Anthropic 100 USD subscription, BUT their 5 hour limits are very generous, whereas I keep bumping into Anthropic's all the time: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/kimi-k3-is-out-is-anthropic-done/ https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/kimi-k3-is-out-is-anthropic-don... Their 200 USD tier is pretty good and I might move to them because their annual discounts also make it even cheaper. I dislike the way how Opus/Fable write and Kimi has less of that slop writing problem, but also ends up feeling kinda slower (especially on Max reasoning), technical abilities are not 100% the same but close (better in some tasks, worse on others).
igravious 3mo ago
threat? that's a weird way of describing a near frontier open weights un-crippled useful coding buddy do you work for OpenAI or Anthropic per chance?
- rglover 3mo ago
  I work for myself. A quick check of my profile here would make that clear. And yes, it's a legitimate threat to frontier models. Both K3 and the distillation approach.

by rglover 3mo ago

kroaton 3mo ago

Better than Opus 4.8 on complex tasks but tends to overthink. It found a bunch of bugs and architecture issues that only 5.6 Sol Max and Fable on my C++ projects.

ATMLOTTOBEER 3mo ago

Agreed. Dropped my $200/mo Claude I was saturating for the $100/mo moonshot sub and have no complaints Plus I can actually see the thinking traces and I’m not getting downgraded/denied by anthropic constsntly…

nmfisher 3mo ago
How much usage do you get out of the $100 Moonshot plan? I haven't heard great things.
- KronisLV 3mo ago
  For me it got exhausted faster than I'd like, subjectively less value than the Anthropic 100 USD subscription, BUT their 5 hour limits are very generous, whereas I keep bumping into Anthropic's all the time: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/kimi-k3-is-out-is-anthropic-done/ https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/kimi-k3-is-out-is-anthropic-don... Their 200 USD tier is pretty good and I might move to them because their annual discounts also make it even cheaper. I dislike the way how Opus/Fable write and Kimi has less of that slop writing problem, but also ends up feeling kinda slower (especially on Max reasoning), technical abilities are not 100% the same but close (better in some tasks, worse on others).

igravious 3mo ago

threat? that's a weird way of describing a near frontier open weights un-crippled useful coding buddy do you work for OpenAI or Anthropic per chance?

rglover 3mo ago
I work for myself. A quick check of my profile here would make that clear. And yes, it's a legitimate threat to frontier models. Both K3 and the distillation approach.