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You want a proposal? Make a kids-only set of sites. And then make hardware/software that can access only those sites. Make sure existing and future "non-kid"

You want a proposal? Make a kids-only set of sites. And then make hardware/software that can access only those sites. Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. You can allow companies to register that they are one of these kid friendly sites with the additional regulation that would entail. Then make a kid having hardware that can access the normal Internet like having a beer in the US. Now perhaps you can find a hole in this, but it can be patched with technology and the right regulation. That we aren't doing something like this gives the game away. How the EU is going about this means the point of all of this has nothing to do with children and everything to do with controlling political speech. PS Yea, I know its a very vague suggestion, it can still be implemented

Root_Denied 3mo ago
One issue that I see with this type of system is that it doesn't allow for parental/guardian oversight of what kids are doing or discussing. Ever gone down the auto-suggestion rabbit hole on YouTube Kids? You start getting into weird and potentially disturbing territory much more quickly than you'd expect.
- hunterpayne 3mo ago
  That's a good point. However, its possible to police YouTube Kids without destroying free speech. Policing the entire Internet and everyone else...not so much. That's the whole point of having the companies providing "kids" sites to register and have a specific set of regulations about the "kids" sites. Perhaps those regulations include parental controls.
Geezus_42 3mo ago
What's to stop an adult from using the "kids only" hardware?
- DangitBobby 3mo ago
  Nothing. It won't matter on age appropriate sites.
  - scotty79 3mo ago
    So age appropriate sites could not have any private communication functionalities.
  - Geezus_42 3mo ago
    Then why make non-kid hardware unable to access it? This whole idea is ridiculous and would never work in reality.
    - DangitBobby 3mo ago
      You've mixed it up. They said make the kids' hardware only able to access kid sites, not make it so only kid hardware could access it.
      - froggit 3mo ago
        They actually said: >Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. Which is the inverse of what i suspect they meant.
      - Geezus_42 3mo ago
        > Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. No I didn't.
cykros 3mo ago
Seems like a good idea. Who ever heard of a kid getting ahold of a beer?
account42 3mo ago
> You want a proposal? Make a kids-only set of sites. And then make hardware/software that can access only those sites. Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. You can allow companies to register that they are one of these kid friendly sites with the additional regulation that would entail. Then make a kid having hardware that can access the normal Internet like having a beer in the US. Now perhaps you can find a hole in this, but it can be patched with technology and the right regulation. This is like saying you can stop world hunger by giving everyone food.

Root_Denied 3mo ago

One issue that I see with this type of system is that it doesn't allow for parental/guardian oversight of what kids are doing or discussing. Ever gone down the auto-suggestion rabbit hole on YouTube Kids? You start getting into weird and potentially disturbing territory much more quickly than you'd expect.

hunterpayne 3mo ago
That's a good point. However, its possible to police YouTube Kids without destroying free speech. Policing the entire Internet and everyone else...not so much. That's the whole point of having the companies providing "kids" sites to register and have a specific set of regulations about the "kids" sites. Perhaps those regulations include parental controls.

Geezus_42 3mo ago

What's to stop an adult from using the "kids only" hardware?

DangitBobby 3mo ago
Nothing. It won't matter on age appropriate sites.
- scotty79 3mo ago
  So age appropriate sites could not have any private communication functionalities.
- Geezus_42 3mo ago
  Then why make non-kid hardware unable to access it? This whole idea is ridiculous and would never work in reality.
  - DangitBobby 3mo ago
    You've mixed it up. They said make the kids' hardware only able to access kid sites, not make it so only kid hardware could access it.
    - froggit 3mo ago
      They actually said: >Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. Which is the inverse of what i suspect they meant.
    - Geezus_42 3mo ago
      > Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. No I didn't.

cykros 3mo ago

Seems like a good idea. Who ever heard of a kid getting ahold of a beer?

account42 3mo ago

> You want a proposal? Make a kids-only set of sites. And then make hardware/software that can access only those sites. Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. You can allow companies to register that they are one of these kid friendly sites with the additional regulation that would entail. Then make a kid having hardware that can access the normal Internet like having a beer in the US. Now perhaps you can find a hole in this, but it can be patched with technology and the right regulation. This is like saying you can stop world hunger by giving everyone food.