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And in Italy, she has 90 days to do it legally and for free. And please stop that rape red herring. The overwhelming majority of abortions are carried out as c

by mbmbn 2mo ago

And in Italy, she has 90 days to do it legally and for free. And please stop that rape red herring. The overwhelming majority of abortions are carried out as contraceptive methods.

surgical_fire 2mo ago
You are being downvoted, and I don't know why. The majority of abortions are a result of people getting pregnant and not wanting a baby. And that's alright, there's nothing wrong with that. I say this as someone that is 100% pro-abortion. If a woman wants to not have a baby, it's her body, and her right to decide. The discussion ends there. Life is hard in the best of times. It must suck to be brought into a world where your mother doesn't even fucking want you around. Moreover, it's probably preferable that people that make poor decisions regarding pregnancy opt themselves out of the gene pool.
dudefeliciano 2mo ago
Even so, you are deliberately dismissing rape victims that got pregnant[1], what is their recourse? Or do you just care about the rights of a fetus while it's in utero and then they're on their own as soon as they pop out? [1]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2814274 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar...
- lelanthran 2mo ago
  > Even so, you are deliberately dismissing rape victims that got pregnant[1], what is their recourse? To have the legally available and free abortion that is offered within the first 90 days of their rape?
  - dudefeliciano 2mo ago
    I linked to a study exploring the numbers in the US states where abortion was banned, not referring to Italy here. My response was to the "rape victim red herring" which i find incredibly distasteful.
- Manuel_D 2mo ago
  Nothing in your link contradicts the fact that the vast majority of abortions are not terminating rape-related pregnancies.
  - dudefeliciano 2mo ago
    Maybe because that is not the argument I am trying to make?

by mbmbn 2mo ago

And in Italy, she has 90 days to do it legally and for free. And please stop that rape red herring. The overwhelming majority of abortions are carried out as contraceptive methods.

surgical_fire 2mo ago

You are being downvoted, and I don't know why. The majority of abortions are a result of people getting pregnant and not wanting a baby. And that's alright, there's nothing wrong with that. I say this as someone that is 100% pro-abortion. If a woman wants to not have a baby, it's her body, and her right to decide. The discussion ends there. Life is hard in the best of times. It must suck to be brought into a world where your mother doesn't even fucking want you around. Moreover, it's probably preferable that people that make poor decisions regarding pregnancy opt themselves out of the gene pool.

dudefeliciano 2mo ago

Even so, you are deliberately dismissing rape victims that got pregnant[1], what is their recourse? Or do you just care about the rights of a fetus while it's in utero and then they're on their own as soon as they pop out? [1]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2814274 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar...

lelanthran 2mo ago
> Even so, you are deliberately dismissing rape victims that got pregnant[1], what is their recourse? To have the legally available and free abortion that is offered within the first 90 days of their rape?
- dudefeliciano 2mo ago
  I linked to a study exploring the numbers in the US states where abortion was banned, not referring to Italy here. My response was to the "rape victim red herring" which i find incredibly distasteful.
Manuel_D 2mo ago
Nothing in your link contradicts the fact that the vast majority of abortions are not terminating rape-related pregnancies.
- dudefeliciano 2mo ago
  Maybe because that is not the argument I am trying to make?