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All the stuff all these people post on X is just regurgitation of 4chan circa 2016. The lingo is literally all just /fit/ memes from 10 years ago rebranded. -m

All the stuff all these people post on X is just regurgitation of 4chan circa 2016. The lingo is literally all just /fit/ memes from 10 years ago rebranded. -maxxing, "mogging", "NGMI", I'm literally going nuts waiting for Gavin to start asking trump "DYEL"?

red-iron-pine 3mo ago
it's not by accident, they're targeting specific demographics for a reason angry young men will vote to abolish democracy -- and have, in Europe circa 1930s -- if you can convince them it'll benefit them. step 1 is to start speaking to them in ways they connect with. put another way, with the boomers dying rapidly, the largest source of MAGA is young men...
- cindyllm 3mo ago
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- Ancapistani 3mo ago
  Why is the left doing the opposite? There is no place for a young man who views masculinity through a traditional lens on the left.
  - slowin 3mo ago
    This is itself a 4chan meme. They also view neo-liberals as "the left", while most leftists definitely do not. Worrying about "woke", "no place for a young man", trans anything... none of these are actual problems, just 4chan/ultra-right boogeymen.
    - Ancapistani 3mo ago
      Voting statistics by sex show that it is a problem.
      - slowin 3mo ago
        How so? First of all there aren't many leftists you can actually vote for. Second, nothing is stopping men or women from voting for leftists, and indeed both do in the rare instances they're on a ballot.
dualvariable 3mo ago
> All the stuff all these people post on X is just regurgitation of 4chan circa 2016. You can trace a lot of what is wrong with 2026 back to the right-wing countercultural movement on 4chan, probably along with meme culture in general.
- cloverich 3mo ago
  it is weird how when i first heard of meme it was in the dawkins sense. then people showed me memes and i thought wtf this is just dumb jokes, what a weird transformation of the term (my understanding of it). Then i watched it become an actual vehicle for political ideology, "just jokes" when too far but real ideas the rest of the time. The left rots from them and the right becomes more extreme and everyone is losing all the time. Meme-banning sites like HN and stackoverflow look brilliant in hindsight, to me, with them knowing what they were doing all along; and now there are so few havens from them. I know this is also a trope, but id always hoped the human race would be consumed by something more sophisticated. But it seems like memes was all is took.
  - dualvariable 3mo ago
    Yeah, I'm on a gaming Discord where the 30+ year-old game modders who run it had to ban memes. If you don't, you'll end up with 15-year-old kids spamming memes into channels because that's just how they "talk" online. And the "meme police" who will complain about misusing meme formats seem really regressive and anti-creative to me. Some satirist should skewer all the young adults who think that meme formats need to be defended. [I also read The Selfish Gene back in the 90s, long before memes were just jokes]

red-iron-pine 3mo ago

it's not by accident, they're targeting specific demographics for a reason angry young men will vote to abolish democracy -- and have, in Europe circa 1930s -- if you can convince them it'll benefit them. step 1 is to start speaking to them in ways they connect with. put another way, with the boomers dying rapidly, the largest source of MAGA is young men...

cindyllm 3mo ago
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Ancapistani 3mo ago
Why is the left doing the opposite? There is no place for a young man who views masculinity through a traditional lens on the left.
- slowin 3mo ago
  This is itself a 4chan meme. They also view neo-liberals as "the left", while most leftists definitely do not. Worrying about "woke", "no place for a young man", trans anything... none of these are actual problems, just 4chan/ultra-right boogeymen.
  - Ancapistani 3mo ago
    Voting statistics by sex show that it is a problem.
    - slowin 3mo ago
      How so? First of all there aren't many leftists you can actually vote for. Second, nothing is stopping men or women from voting for leftists, and indeed both do in the rare instances they're on a ballot.

dualvariable 3mo ago

> All the stuff all these people post on X is just regurgitation of 4chan circa 2016. You can trace a lot of what is wrong with 2026 back to the right-wing countercultural movement on 4chan, probably along with meme culture in general.

cloverich 3mo ago
it is weird how when i first heard of meme it was in the dawkins sense. then people showed me memes and i thought wtf this is just dumb jokes, what a weird transformation of the term (my understanding of it). Then i watched it become an actual vehicle for political ideology, "just jokes" when too far but real ideas the rest of the time. The left rots from them and the right becomes more extreme and everyone is losing all the time. Meme-banning sites like HN and stackoverflow look brilliant in hindsight, to me, with them knowing what they were doing all along; and now there are so few havens from them. I know this is also a trope, but id always hoped the human race would be consumed by something more sophisticated. But it seems like memes was all is took.
- dualvariable 3mo ago
  Yeah, I'm on a gaming Discord where the 30+ year-old game modders who run it had to ban memes. If you don't, you'll end up with 15-year-old kids spamming memes into channels because that's just how they "talk" online. And the "meme police" who will complain about misusing meme formats seem really regressive and anti-creative to me. Some satirist should skewer all the young adults who think that meme formats need to be defended. [I also read The Selfish Gene back in the 90s, long before memes were just jokes]