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They are widespread, but not among "normies", but professional programmers. That's what I call a failure, since they were initially designed to be used by non-p
by Panzerschrek 3mo ago
They are widespread, but not among "normies", but professional programmers. That's what I call a failure, since they were initially designed to be used by non-programmers.
- himata4113 3mo agoI would love having the capability of just writing json-esque SQL that has the most basic type checks, alas we live in purgatory with weird build systems to validate queries.
- bazoom42 3mo agoWhat is json-esque SQL?
- crowdhailer 3mo agoI'm not sure "normies" is the right grouping. I think that is too broad some people are artists and some people just aren't that curious to try. I think a better group to target is "makers" I think that's anyone with enough ambition to at least try and fix a plug or change a lightbulb.
- pjmlp 3mo agoI am quite sure that plenty of Excel users know BASIC and SQL.
- bazoom42 3mo agoBecause we call someone using a programming language a programmer. But certainly many professionals who arent full-time programmers write Excel formulas or queries. The intention of SQL was to be used by domain experts rather than computer scientists. I’d say it have been successful at that.
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- nylonstrung 3mo agoI think this has less to do with design flaws of SQL and more to do with normie users historically not touching databases and query engines directly
- kbelder 2mo agoI'd say BASIC might have been common among non-developers, if it hadn't been deliberately killed (or at least severely mis-handled).