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Please please please someone take over discord and their use base. Their nitro and ads is the most toxic nonsense stuff I have ever had the displeasure to work

Please please please someone take over discord and their use base. Their nitro and ads is the most toxic nonsense stuff I have ever had the displeasure to work with. I am in a niche market with both new gen workers and customers and discord is a really important medium to engage and connect with them. My soul dies every time I am there dealing with all sorts of psychological traps and baits to more spending coupled with the incessant advertising. I don't even care anymore who wins that market, just get me out of it.

adzm 3mo ago
There is so little advertising on discord that I find it hilarious you are so upset about a few notifications here and there about nitro and other aesthetic perks which are basically entirely optional
- hmokiguess 3mo ago
  A few notifications here and there? I'm not sure I can agree with you. It's a daily persistent thing that there is no way to disable and the constant dark patterns. I believe I am not alone with things like https://betterdiscord.app/ https://betterdiscord.app/ having more than 56M downloads (and that being just one of the custom mods)
  - xboxnolifes 3mo ago
    I'm actually confused about what you mean with "daily persistent thing". I see a discord popup on start about a new feature or ad for some collaboration maybe once a month. Most days it just starts and brings me to the last server I was in.
    - hmokiguess 3mo ago
      Three things I can't remove from the UI that often have intrusive popups at random placed directly under "Friends": 1. Nitro Home 2. Shop 3. Quests And hovering on users often brings up upsell.
      - xboxnolifes 3mo ago
        Interesting, I almost never see any of that stuff when I use discord, but I realize that's because I almost never use DMs.
- hresvelgr 3mo ago
  There are 3rd party ads in Discord now, and they are probably going to expand as an ad platform. I think this is what the parent comment was upset about. edit: grammar
  - hmokiguess 3mo ago
    That too, I have to be on Nitro because of work. (Managing communities, streaming resolution, etc), and the level of ads triple after being a customer. Even worse if you need to blend in like adopting some of the customization since the cult goes deep. To be fair, I put myself there and I voluntarily work with those audiences. I am aware I don't belong to the same level they do, and I'm ok with that. I just wish I could customize it my way too. In my view, if this was a protocol rather than a PaaS locked-in system, like IRC for example, we all would be winning.
Ekaros 3mo ago
I have never seen true need to get Nitro. Missing on some things but if someone wants to pay for it let them. Big question is how else would they make money? Monetise hosting "servers" directly? Would they have even gotten community if they did that?
- hmokiguess 3mo ago
  Do you have or use Discord for work? E.g. streaming, many calls, etc. Only nitro lets you do those.
  - Ekaros 3mo ago
    Thankfully my company uses Teams. So I don't need Discord for that. As non-nitro uses it works fine for text chat.
    - esseph 3mo ago
      > Thankfully my company uses Teams. Wwooooooowwwww I never thought I'd read that or even a similar statement in my entire life!
nickthegreek 3mo ago
> Please please please someone take over discord and their use base This is one area where I can not muster the optimism to think that would improve the situation. You need someone else to somehow unseat them somehow.. they’re entrenched in this space so deeply though.
axus 3mo ago
Charging for perks and user self-expression seems a lot healthier than what we see in app stores and websites. This is all pre-IPO, it's sure to get worse; hopefully one of the Discord alternatives will have caught on by then. The big line they've crossed is collecting identification; much thanks to HN for linking to the bypass that worked for a day.

adzm 3mo ago

There is so little advertising on discord that I find it hilarious you are so upset about a few notifications here and there about nitro and other aesthetic perks which are basically entirely optional

hmokiguess 3mo ago
A few notifications here and there? I'm not sure I can agree with you. It's a daily persistent thing that there is no way to disable and the constant dark patterns. I believe I am not alone with things like https://betterdiscord.app/ https://betterdiscord.app/ having more than 56M downloads (and that being just one of the custom mods)
- xboxnolifes 3mo ago
  I'm actually confused about what you mean with "daily persistent thing". I see a discord popup on start about a new feature or ad for some collaboration maybe once a month. Most days it just starts and brings me to the last server I was in.
  - hmokiguess 3mo ago
    Three things I can't remove from the UI that often have intrusive popups at random placed directly under "Friends": 1. Nitro Home 2. Shop 3. Quests And hovering on users often brings up upsell.
    - xboxnolifes 3mo ago
      Interesting, I almost never see any of that stuff when I use discord, but I realize that's because I almost never use DMs.
hresvelgr 3mo ago
There are 3rd party ads in Discord now, and they are probably going to expand as an ad platform. I think this is what the parent comment was upset about. edit: grammar
- hmokiguess 3mo ago
  That too, I have to be on Nitro because of work. (Managing communities, streaming resolution, etc), and the level of ads triple after being a customer. Even worse if you need to blend in like adopting some of the customization since the cult goes deep. To be fair, I put myself there and I voluntarily work with those audiences. I am aware I don't belong to the same level they do, and I'm ok with that. I just wish I could customize it my way too. In my view, if this was a protocol rather than a PaaS locked-in system, like IRC for example, we all would be winning.

Ekaros 3mo ago

I have never seen true need to get Nitro. Missing on some things but if someone wants to pay for it let them. Big question is how else would they make money? Monetise hosting "servers" directly? Would they have even gotten community if they did that?

hmokiguess 3mo ago
Do you have or use Discord for work? E.g. streaming, many calls, etc. Only nitro lets you do those.
- Ekaros 3mo ago
  Thankfully my company uses Teams. So I don't need Discord for that. As non-nitro uses it works fine for text chat.
  - esseph 3mo ago
    > Thankfully my company uses Teams. Wwooooooowwwww I never thought I'd read that or even a similar statement in my entire life!

nickthegreek 3mo ago

> Please please please someone take over discord and their use base This is one area where I can not muster the optimism to think that would improve the situation. You need someone else to somehow unseat them somehow.. they’re entrenched in this space so deeply though.

axus 3mo ago

Charging for perks and user self-expression seems a lot healthier than what we see in app stores and websites. This is all pre-IPO, it's sure to get worse; hopefully one of the Discord alternatives will have caught on by then. The big line they've crossed is collecting identification; much thanks to HN for linking to the bypass that worked for a day.