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Getting 404 on the OP's link. Does it mean it got banned or self-censored in the meantime?

by storus 2mo ago

codethief 2mo ago
Until a few minutes ago there was a countdown page. (The weights haven't been released yet.) The countdown should be over in 19min, not sure why we're suddenly getting a 404.
- rhdunn 2mo ago
  Maybe they are in the process of uploading the weights and git history and have taken down the holding page/project to not have the "coming soon" in the git history.
- deleted 2mo ago
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llm_nerd 2mo ago
I imagine it's just technical issues on the flip. It's also going to be interesting what happens to HF with loads of people downloading a many TB model. Even though almost no one has the capability to run it, it does seem like something to stash away in case it suddenly becomes unavailable due to government controls. FWIW, China is suddenly talking about model export controls. It was one thing to release also-ran models, but now that they're pushing SOTA it's a different game.
- qrios 2mo ago
  > FWIW, China is suddenly talking about model export controls. ... Thanks for the hint. It makes sense, even if the main driver for releasing the models is to reduce the market size for the US companies. Do you have any sources? Edit: "market size"
  - wren6991 2mo ago
    The main source I'm aware of is this Reuters article: https://www.reuters.com/world/beijing-is-looking-curbing-overseas-access-chinas-top-ai-models-sources-say-2026-07-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/beijing-is-looking-curbing-ove... However you should take it with a pinch of salt because IMO their direct quotations do not support their title.
- apitman 2mo ago
  Honestly it's pretty wild that the standard way to download these isn't torrent instead of Hugging Face direct. Why doesn't HF themselves provide torrent links?
achrono 2mo ago
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, this sounds like a great opportunity to make a statement. US or China, but likelier to be the former. Maybe Clem's on a call with the US government right now?
- jorisw 2mo ago
  The wonderful imagination of the outsider
- NitpickLawyer 2mo ago
  Open source teams have had access to the weights for at least a week now. vLLM folks expect full support on public release of the weights. Anything conspiratorial won't prevent the weights from leaking... It's just launch day gremlins, like always.
- nozzlegear 2mo ago
  Who is Clem?
  - jujube3 2mo ago
    You know. Clem. I've said too much already!
craigmart 2mo ago
It's up now

Getting 404 on the OP's link. Does it mean it got banned or self-censored in the meantime?

by storus 2mo ago

Getting 404 on the OP's link. Does it mean it got banned or self-censored in the meantime?

Until a few minutes ago there was a countdown page. (The weights haven't been released yet.) The countdown should be over in 19min, not sure why we're suddenly getting a 404.

rhdunn 2mo ago
Maybe they are in the process of uploading the weights and git history and have taken down the holding page/project to not have the "coming soon" in the git history.
deleted 2mo ago
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llm_nerd 2mo ago

I imagine it's just technical issues on the flip. It's also going to be interesting what happens to HF with loads of people downloading a many TB model. Even though almost no one has the capability to run it, it does seem like something to stash away in case it suddenly becomes unavailable due to government controls. FWIW, China is suddenly talking about model export controls. It was one thing to release also-ran models, but now that they're pushing SOTA it's a different game.

qrios 2mo ago
> FWIW, China is suddenly talking about model export controls. ... Thanks for the hint. It makes sense, even if the main driver for releasing the models is to reduce the market size for the US companies. Do you have any sources? Edit: "market size"
- wren6991 2mo ago
  The main source I'm aware of is this Reuters article: https://www.reuters.com/world/beijing-is-looking-curbing-overseas-access-chinas-top-ai-models-sources-say-2026-07-07/ https://www.reuters.com/world/beijing-is-looking-curbing-ove... However you should take it with a pinch of salt because IMO their direct quotations do not support their title.
apitman 2mo ago
Honestly it's pretty wild that the standard way to download these isn't torrent instead of Hugging Face direct. Why doesn't HF themselves provide torrent links?

achrono 2mo ago

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, this sounds like a great opportunity to make a statement. US or China, but likelier to be the former. Maybe Clem's on a call with the US government right now?

jorisw 2mo ago
The wonderful imagination of the outsider
NitpickLawyer 2mo ago
Open source teams have had access to the weights for at least a week now. vLLM folks expect full support on public release of the weights. Anything conspiratorial won't prevent the weights from leaking... It's just launch day gremlins, like always.
nozzlegear 2mo ago
Who is Clem?
- jujube3 2mo ago
  You know. Clem. I've said too much already!

craigmart 2mo ago

It's up now