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- can microsoft cut the crap and give us a windows optimal version already? - no bloatware, no malware, no adware, no unnecessary tools, 4x the price - am sur

- can microsoft cut the crap and give us a windows optimal version already? - no bloatware, no malware, no adware, no unnecessary tools, 4x the price - am sure a whole chunk of people ll happily pay it to get their hands on an OS that runs at blazing speeds instead of the bloated crap we got in the name of windows these days

Good4boothee 3mo ago
Isn't that just the LTSC version?
- doubled112 3mo ago
  Perhaps, but how do you buy a copy for your family at home?
  - xeonmc 3mo ago
    From massgrave.dev
  - hotsauceror 3mo ago
    It's been a long time, but when I built my Win 10 machine (~2016) it was possible to purchase an "OEM" install disc on Amazon. I believe that's the LTSC version. I do see one for Win 11, but the product listing is several years old now, so who knows? https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windоws-Pro-OEM-DVD/dp/B09MYBD79G/ref=sr_1_3?crid=25KN8C6WAP7J5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2C8tO7QQ2BVzrESoXrRRbCMCZOsfLi5KSERgoA3JcVB6H3_ZskJWCbfTO0L9YJkTzXJl1A7S4EbegfB8zey_e5JWrJb-wKVDpH6-UkWWwNHNAmn27EeAV1SftQJNocGFYUNd6cLhDa-N3m_4UyBc2KEuuAMHz5KpSD7kLtrn3csN_8yiMKj05rt5wLRVYNb7TOXqFGA9iOLoEhIGT51OdnOpgm4P1n4NdZwmaLQOlXk.XyV5LjtYn96MOvs9NU71FuYrUdxVKa6zLNg26qthB4o&dib_tag=se&keywords=windows%2B11%2BOEM&qid=1785165929&sprefix=windows%2B11%2Boem%2Caps%2C260&sr=8-3&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windоws-Pro-OEM-DVD/dp/B09M...
    - wtallis 3mo ago
      OEM versions of Windows are just copies with license terms dictating that they are to be installed on and tied to a specific new PC, as opposed to a full retail license that is not tied to a specific PC and may be transferred to a different machine. What you have linked to is quite clearly Windows 11 Pro, not Windows 11 Enterprise and certainly not Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC.
      - serf 3mo ago
        cdw sells lot of diff key options, LTSC IoT used to be offered fairly reasonably, I don't know if they still do. edit: replied to the wrong person, but leaving it here anyway, it's just about as visible I think. https://www.cdw.com/search/software/operating-systems/windows/?w=FN1 https://www.cdw.com/search/software/operating-systems/window...
        Krssst 3mo ago
        Tried to buy LTSC IoT from there a while ago, got rejected for not being a business. Normal people don't deserve Windows without the permanent disrespect of user choices apparently. (not blaming them, I assume that's just Microsoft's policy)
        doubled112 3mo ago
        Right. As far as I know you need to be a volume license customer, or resort to piracy.
autoexec 3mo ago
I doubt most people would be willing to pay what MS would have to charge them to make up for the value of the data MS gets by spying on everything a person does while using their computer.

Good4boothee 3mo ago

Isn't that just the LTSC version?

doubled112 3mo ago
Perhaps, but how do you buy a copy for your family at home?
- xeonmc 3mo ago
  From massgrave.dev
- hotsauceror 3mo ago
  It's been a long time, but when I built my Win 10 machine (~2016) it was possible to purchase an "OEM" install disc on Amazon. I believe that's the LTSC version. I do see one for Win 11, but the product listing is several years old now, so who knows? https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windоws-Pro-OEM-DVD/dp/B09MYBD79G/ref=sr_1_3?crid=25KN8C6WAP7J5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2C8tO7QQ2BVzrESoXrRRbCMCZOsfLi5KSERgoA3JcVB6H3_ZskJWCbfTO0L9YJkTzXJl1A7S4EbegfB8zey_e5JWrJb-wKVDpH6-UkWWwNHNAmn27EeAV1SftQJNocGFYUNd6cLhDa-N3m_4UyBc2KEuuAMHz5KpSD7kLtrn3csN_8yiMKj05rt5wLRVYNb7TOXqFGA9iOLoEhIGT51OdnOpgm4P1n4NdZwmaLQOlXk.XyV5LjtYn96MOvs9NU71FuYrUdxVKa6zLNg26qthB4o&dib_tag=se&keywords=windows%2B11%2BOEM&qid=1785165929&sprefix=windows%2B11%2Boem%2Caps%2C260&sr=8-3&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windоws-Pro-OEM-DVD/dp/B09M...
  - wtallis 3mo ago
    OEM versions of Windows are just copies with license terms dictating that they are to be installed on and tied to a specific new PC, as opposed to a full retail license that is not tied to a specific PC and may be transferred to a different machine. What you have linked to is quite clearly Windows 11 Pro, not Windows 11 Enterprise and certainly not Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC.
    - serf 3mo ago
      cdw sells lot of diff key options, LTSC IoT used to be offered fairly reasonably, I don't know if they still do. edit: replied to the wrong person, but leaving it here anyway, it's just about as visible I think. https://www.cdw.com/search/software/operating-systems/windows/?w=FN1 https://www.cdw.com/search/software/operating-systems/window...
      - Krssst 3mo ago
        Tried to buy LTSC IoT from there a while ago, got rejected for not being a business. Normal people don't deserve Windows without the permanent disrespect of user choices apparently. (not blaming them, I assume that's just Microsoft's policy)
        doubled112 3mo ago
        Right. As far as I know you need to be a volume license customer, or resort to piracy.

autoexec 3mo ago

I doubt most people would be willing to pay what MS would have to charge them to make up for the value of the data MS gets by spying on everything a person does while using their computer.