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jeffbee 3mo ago
The combination of "I have an idea for changing one of the fundamental experiences of modern life" and "my website is obnoxious and hostile" didn't really work for me.
- gostsamo 3mo ago
  Mistakes happen.
- andros 3mo ago
  The entire website is accessible; I dedicated ample time to it. This was a minor oversight, but I wouldn't call it hostility.
  - hju22_-3 3mo ago
    To the letter of the word? Perhaps. To the spirit? Hmm. Strange then that you reject critique elsewhere. Accessibility is not just a checkbox, it's to consider and test the actual use of it.
gostsamo 3mo ago
Thanks for the change.
forty 3mo ago
Anecdotally, I don't use a screen reader and also couldn't care less on the visitors on the site. I doubt anyone but you is interested in this, and probably this number is slightly lower just because of that popup
mrnotcrazy 3mo ago
I liked the counters on the old 90s/2000s web but it was best at the bottom of the page cause it was easy to ignore. I can't ever see me wanting a moving box telling me other people are reading the same article as me but if I did it would blend in better. Email is more than a technology its a community. There have been plenty of technical attempts at replacing it but they have failed to un-seat email because they focus only on the technology aspect which as you have found is largely a solved problem although... getting the details right might be hard. You need buy in from the community which is not just users but also businesses and organizations that use email which is everyone from CEOs to church leaders. It's not enough to fix email you have to get buy in from the community to make a meaningful change and I don't see anything here that would do that. This isn't really a criticism, just an insight I offer. I work in this field and we're trying to get out of it cause managing email sucks. I would love something new to take its place but the community has heard so many promises that never came to fruition, when that happens you either need a better promise(harder than it seems) or you need credibility which may be very difficult in the current climate. Not an unsolvable problem, those don't exist but sometimes the lever you need to solve the problem is further than you can reach alone and this is one of those times.
- andros 2mo ago
  My goal isn't to replace anything else; it's a (game) theory exercise. Companies with more resources and influence try to provide an improved solution without leaving a trace. Is it possible to create a better solution with standard tools? Yes! :)

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by andros 3mo ago

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. I've hidden the counter for screen readers. Please try again when you're ready.

jeffbee 3mo ago

The combination of "I have an idea for changing one of the fundamental experiences of modern life" and "my website is obnoxious and hostile" didn't really work for me.

gostsamo 3mo ago
Mistakes happen.
andros 3mo ago
The entire website is accessible; I dedicated ample time to it. This was a minor oversight, but I wouldn't call it hostility.
- hju22_-3 3mo ago
  To the letter of the word? Perhaps. To the spirit? Hmm. Strange then that you reject critique elsewhere. Accessibility is not just a checkbox, it's to consider and test the actual use of it.

gostsamo 3mo ago

Thanks for the change.

forty 3mo ago

Anecdotally, I don't use a screen reader and also couldn't care less on the visitors on the site. I doubt anyone but you is interested in this, and probably this number is slightly lower just because of that popup

mrnotcrazy 3mo ago

I liked the counters on the old 90s/2000s web but it was best at the bottom of the page cause it was easy to ignore. I can't ever see me wanting a moving box telling me other people are reading the same article as me but if I did it would blend in better. Email is more than a technology its a community. There have been plenty of technical attempts at replacing it but they have failed to un-seat email because they focus only on the technology aspect which as you have found is largely a solved problem although... getting the details right might be hard. You need buy in from the community which is not just users but also businesses and organizations that use email which is everyone from CEOs to church leaders. It's not enough to fix email you have to get buy in from the community to make a meaningful change and I don't see anything here that would do that. This isn't really a criticism, just an insight I offer. I work in this field and we're trying to get out of it cause managing email sucks. I would love something new to take its place but the community has heard so many promises that never came to fruition, when that happens you either need a better promise(harder than it seems) or you need credibility which may be very difficult in the current climate. Not an unsolvable problem, those don't exist but sometimes the lever you need to solve the problem is further than you can reach alone and this is one of those times.

andros 2mo ago
My goal isn't to replace anything else; it's a (game) theory exercise. Companies with more resources and influence try to provide an improved solution without leaving a trace. Is it possible to create a better solution with standard tools? Yes! :)