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If you think that every data center is now a closed loop system enjoy your propaganda. Colossus 1 and 2 still use open loop systems. And with the case of blow

If you think that every data center is now a closed loop system enjoy your propaganda. Colossus 1 and 2 still use open loop systems. And with the case of blow down water that's "returned" it's not usable due to the use of concentrated salts (1,200 to 6,000 mg/L). In your mind this is a closed loop system of clean water. It is not. And as DCs have less and less discharge there is more and more solid waste produced. Your assertion that "water consumption is a red herring" is utter bull shit. I'd suggest enlightening yourself [0][1][2][3]. [0] https://genesiswatertech.com/blog-post/advanced-blowdown-treatment-technologies-for-data-center-water-recovery/ https://genesiswatertech.com/blog-post/advanced-blowdown-tre... [1] https://fieldreport.caes.uga.edu/publications/TP121/how-data-centers-impact-surface-and-ground-waters/ https://fieldreport.caes.uga.edu/publications/TP121/how-data... [2] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2606.21760 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2606.21760 [3] https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/epa-writing-permits-could-let-182418731.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/epa-writing-perm...

dredmorbius 2mo ago
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48055532 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48055532>
- windexh8er 2mo ago
  Unfounded comments that are nothing but a lie are OK. Yet, calling it out directly goes against the rules. In this case the response is warranted. Until people start to see what actually goes on in these data centers with respect to pollution (of many kinds) I don't have a problem being direct.
  - dredmorbius 2mo ago
    What the link I'd shared stated was "Please edit out swipes, as the site guidelines ask". It also states "Your comment would be fine without that ... bit." I frequently address poorly-founded comments myself. Just did immediately before this reply, see: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49064763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49064763> ( I'm doing so both staying within the guidelines and specifically calling out the idiocy displayed, though without relying on that particular word. Calling out Guidelines violations does not imply disagreement with what's been said otherwise. It is a call for more substantive participation, and probably strengthening your own arguments. You've been here long enough that all of this should be quite familiar to you. (I'm not a mod, which is why I'd initially linked a mod's own admonition.)
    - windexh8er 2mo ago
      > You've been here long enough that all of this should be quite familiar to you. ... > (I'm not a mod, which is why I'd initially linked a mod's own admonition.) Maybe stay in your own lane then, I explained myself and the unfounded lie. My response, in my opinion, is warranted.
      - dredmorbius 2mo ago
        Yes, the response is warranted. Appreciated even. The swipe ("I'd suggest enlightening yourself") is not.
jay_kyburz 2mo ago
Yes, but they _could_ be a closed loop system if governments demanded it. And they should. The could, and should generate their own electricity as well. And perhaps even provide free power to the surrounding neighborhood to make up for the noise and inconvenience of having one nearby.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  The xAI one does that, with the result of giving everyone in a several mile radius permanent asthma.
- simmerup 2mo ago
  Have you seen that some of these things are so loud they’re damaging to health? But they’re loud at frequencies we can’t hear so it’s not easy to tell without specialised equipment
froggy 2mo ago
Very interesting how your enlightening comments about dirty AI data centers are being downvoted. Pro-Musk, pro-AI bots and shills trying to keep the smoke screen going?
- inigyou 2mo ago
  We don't have to make up false reasons why these things are bad. There are enough true reasons.
inigyou 2mo ago
What happens to the water leaving Colossus 1 and 2?

dredmorbius 2mo ago

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48055532 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48055532>

windexh8er 2mo ago
Unfounded comments that are nothing but a lie are OK. Yet, calling it out directly goes against the rules. In this case the response is warranted. Until people start to see what actually goes on in these data centers with respect to pollution (of many kinds) I don't have a problem being direct.
- dredmorbius 2mo ago
  What the link I'd shared stated was "Please edit out swipes, as the site guidelines ask". It also states "Your comment would be fine without that ... bit." I frequently address poorly-founded comments myself. Just did immediately before this reply, see: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49064763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49064763> ( I'm doing so both staying within the guidelines and specifically calling out the idiocy displayed, though without relying on that particular word. Calling out Guidelines violations does not imply disagreement with what's been said otherwise. It is a call for more substantive participation, and probably strengthening your own arguments. You've been here long enough that all of this should be quite familiar to you. (I'm not a mod, which is why I'd initially linked a mod's own admonition.)
  - windexh8er 2mo ago
    > You've been here long enough that all of this should be quite familiar to you. ... > (I'm not a mod, which is why I'd initially linked a mod's own admonition.) Maybe stay in your own lane then, I explained myself and the unfounded lie. My response, in my opinion, is warranted.
    - dredmorbius 2mo ago
      Yes, the response is warranted. Appreciated even. The swipe ("I'd suggest enlightening yourself") is not.

jay_kyburz 2mo ago

Yes, but they _could_ be a closed loop system if governments demanded it. And they should. The could, and should generate their own electricity as well. And perhaps even provide free power to the surrounding neighborhood to make up for the noise and inconvenience of having one nearby.

inigyou 2mo ago
The xAI one does that, with the result of giving everyone in a several mile radius permanent asthma.
simmerup 2mo ago
Have you seen that some of these things are so loud they’re damaging to health? But they’re loud at frequencies we can’t hear so it’s not easy to tell without specialised equipment

froggy 2mo ago

Very interesting how your enlightening comments about dirty AI data centers are being downvoted. Pro-Musk, pro-AI bots and shills trying to keep the smoke screen going?

inigyou 2mo ago
We don't have to make up false reasons why these things are bad. There are enough true reasons.

inigyou 2mo ago

What happens to the water leaving Colossus 1 and 2?