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If both of them are down at the same time, I would switch to my Kimi or GLM subscription and keep working. If they fail too, I switch to any number of providers
by vidarh 3mo ago
If both of them are down at the same time, I would switch to my Kimi or GLM subscription and keep working. If they fail too, I switch to any number of providers via OpenRouter.
While there is some lock-in for the hardest tasks, for most of what people do LLMs are rapidly becoming a commodity.
In fact, right this minute I have Opus benchmarking Kimi alongside itself to determine which workflows we'll switch to using Kimi by default and Opus as the fallback instead of vice versa. It has already conceded Kimi does better on several tasks.
- rokkamokka 3mo agoYou... wouldn't just code yourself if they were down?
- vidarh 3mo agoNo more than when they are up, no. Why would I? I can produce far more by having tasks running in the background while I do other work.
- danielbln 3mo agoIf my laptop breaks I'm not going back to pen and paper, I'm buying a new/different laptop.
- ShinyLeftPad 3mo agoWouldn't know how
- vidarh 3mo agoI have programmed since I was 5, so 46 years now. I have no problem doing it, and still do. I however wouldn't waste my time only coding by hand when an LLM can do it far faster.
- ShinyLeftPad 3mo agoNobody said "only by hand", you moved the goalpost. If you don't practice it you lose the skill.
- vidarh 3mo agoI have not moved any goal posts. You made unwarranted and frankly grossly rude assumptions.
- ShinyLeftPad 3mo agoSo you think if you don't practice you don't lose the ability, that's fine
- vidarh 3mo agoNo, you wrongly assume I wrote no code, and chose to be rude and insulting about it.
- ShinyLeftPad 3mo agoWrongly assume when you said it... Reread your answers, it seems pretty clear you don't write by hand?
- ulimn 3mo agoTo me it doesn't sound so "economically convenient" to pay extra usage to alternative providers while someone pays 20/100/200 dollars for their service.
- vidarh 3mo agoThe subs for those alternative providers have similar tiering but more generous token allocations than Anthropic and OpenAI, and deliver good enough quality to be worth it. If I needed to fall back on OpenRouter, it'd be paid per token, of course, but that'd take 4 major providers being down, in which case I suspect I'll have more critical things to worry about. As it is, I use more than I could with a single $200 Claude Max subscription anyway, so I distribute my tasks across multiple providers. Even without that it's cheap insurance given the cost of lost time.