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I don't see how having a marginal amount of single-engine aviation flight experience is relevant to Dunning-Kruger. If anything, it's taught me how little I kn

I don't see how having a marginal amount of single-engine aviation flight experience is relevant to Dunning-Kruger. If anything, it's taught me how little I know about "real flying" compared to CFD and systems engineering. Commercial aviation is conservative because aviation is "hard" and mistakes in aviation are "extremely costly".

carabiner 2mo ago
It's a lot like saying, "as someone 5 hours into driver's ed in my mom's honda civic, I believe that future stability control algorithms in self-driving cars..." Or the difference between a (noob) software user and a software engineer.
- kelnos 2mo ago
  No, it's not. They're saying "as someone with a small amount of insider experience, even I can see how everything is super conservative and no one wants to innovate".
- calmbonsai 2mo ago
  No. I'm, in essence, saying the opposite. To use your analogy "as someone with 5 hours into driver's ed in my mom's civic I now realize how hard driving actually is and why ALL cars still have 4 wheels, still use a steering wheel, and still have seat-belts".
  - stickfigure 2mo ago
    People with a handful of hours towards a private pilot's license have no (zero, zip, nada) expertise or insight when it comes to the design and manufacture of commercial airliners. You might feel like you do, but it has no basis in fact, because the constraints that really matter are things that engineers have spent a hundred years working out by trial and error (and crashing a lot of aircraft). We wouldn't take airliner design advice today from the Wright brothers, either.
    - carabiner 2mo ago
      When I worked in flight test you realize how much pilots don't know anything. It's exactly like a car driver vs. automotive engineer.
    - calmbonsai 2mo ago
      All of my prior points still stand. Show me where this company has addressed these issues.
  - carabiner 2mo ago
    That's not what your original comment says at all. You're pontificating on future aircraft configurations while you're just learning the ABC's of being an enduser of said products. Being a learning pilot confers zero expertise on conceptual design. It probably gives you less expertise than being a longtime aviation journalist like Bill Sweetman.
    - calmbonsai 2mo ago
      No. I am being critical of a company’s sales efforts as they have not addressed those salient challenges to bringing forth a completed commercial aircraft to market.

carabiner 2mo ago

It's a lot like saying, "as someone 5 hours into driver's ed in my mom's honda civic, I believe that future stability control algorithms in self-driving cars..." Or the difference between a (noob) software user and a software engineer.

kelnos 2mo ago
No, it's not. They're saying "as someone with a small amount of insider experience, even I can see how everything is super conservative and no one wants to innovate".
calmbonsai 2mo ago
No. I'm, in essence, saying the opposite. To use your analogy "as someone with 5 hours into driver's ed in my mom's civic I now realize how hard driving actually is and why ALL cars still have 4 wheels, still use a steering wheel, and still have seat-belts".
- stickfigure 2mo ago
  People with a handful of hours towards a private pilot's license have no (zero, zip, nada) expertise or insight when it comes to the design and manufacture of commercial airliners. You might feel like you do, but it has no basis in fact, because the constraints that really matter are things that engineers have spent a hundred years working out by trial and error (and crashing a lot of aircraft). We wouldn't take airliner design advice today from the Wright brothers, either.
  - carabiner 2mo ago
    When I worked in flight test you realize how much pilots don't know anything. It's exactly like a car driver vs. automotive engineer.
  - calmbonsai 2mo ago
    All of my prior points still stand. Show me where this company has addressed these issues.
- carabiner 2mo ago
  That's not what your original comment says at all. You're pontificating on future aircraft configurations while you're just learning the ABC's of being an enduser of said products. Being a learning pilot confers zero expertise on conceptual design. It probably gives you less expertise than being a longtime aviation journalist like Bill Sweetman.
  - calmbonsai 2mo ago
    No. I am being critical of a company’s sales efforts as they have not addressed those salient challenges to bringing forth a completed commercial aircraft to market.