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How long does this stuff usually take to get into a more comercial release? When will we see it in Ubuntu? Android?

by rgbrgb 14y ago

chrisguitarguy 14y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_o... Ubuntu 12.04 uses version 3.2, 12.10 is on kernel 3.5.
vladev 14y ago
Arch Linux will probably get it in a couple of weeks. Android, on the other hand, will take much longer. It's sad as there are so many goodies in this for ARM, especially the multi-platform support. This will make updating Android version a lot easier (for manufacturers, hackers). Right now the one of the bigger issues is updating the kernels (and the closed drivers, to be honest).
- thevdude 14y ago
  :( I just upgraded my arch a few days ago to 3.6.9, and now I'll have to do it again.
  - pmr_ 14y ago
    If upgrading is not for you, ArchLinux is not for you. You should run a full pacman -Syyu at least once a week and clean up .pacsave files at least once a month. Probably even more often if you are on testing.
  - Adaptive 14y ago
    You can always blacklist a package (such as linux) in /etc/pacman.conf to avoid upgrading it during pacman -Syu, for example. I had to do this during a power regression in the kernel. However this isn't a long term arch strategy. Note also that arch has LTS kernels, should you prefer.
    - allerratio 14y ago
      Not updating a package is the best way preventing security flaws to get fixed
      - jvm 14y ago
        If not upgrading the kernel every week or two is a security hole, most people are pretty screwed. I personally do not like to restart that often. Turning off automatic updates just gives you control of when to upgrade.
Tuna-Fish 14y ago
Ubuntu upgrades Kernel major versions to the latest available at the kernel freeze at every release. So, the features in 3.7 will hit Ubuntu systems with 13.04.
shardling 14y ago
If you're rooted, you can often find custom, more up to date Android kernels optimized for various phones. (The android dev community being what it is, sometimes they're not optimized very well, but if you hunt around and find a good one, they can make a difference to battery life/etc.)
jeltz 14y ago
In Debian stable it will probably arrive in about two years in the next Debian (8.0, jessie).
rbanffy 14y ago
IIRC a ton of stuff that was different between Android and mainline were to be merged in 3.7. I suppose the next Android version will use this kernel.
zanny 14y ago
Ubuntu already has a generic 3.7 kernel (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-raring/ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-raring/) in the kernel PPA. I'm already running it. Upbuntu usually has a shell script day of to download new releases. New Ubuntu versions are shipped with the latest kernel around the time of commmit freeze and just updates that line to avoid regressions in future kernel releases from harming systems inadvertently.

How long does this stuff usually take to get into a more comercial release? When will we see it in Ubuntu? Android?

by rgbrgb 14y ago

How long does this stuff usually take to get into a more comercial release? When will we see it in Ubuntu? Android?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_o... Ubuntu 12.04 uses version 3.2, 12.10 is on kernel 3.5.

vladev 14y ago

Arch Linux will probably get it in a couple of weeks. Android, on the other hand, will take much longer. It's sad as there are so many goodies in this for ARM, especially the multi-platform support. This will make updating Android version a lot easier (for manufacturers, hackers). Right now the one of the bigger issues is updating the kernels (and the closed drivers, to be honest).

thevdude 14y ago
:( I just upgraded my arch a few days ago to 3.6.9, and now I'll have to do it again.
- pmr_ 14y ago
  If upgrading is not for you, ArchLinux is not for you. You should run a full pacman -Syyu at least once a week and clean up .pacsave files at least once a month. Probably even more often if you are on testing.
- Adaptive 14y ago
  You can always blacklist a package (such as linux) in /etc/pacman.conf to avoid upgrading it during pacman -Syu, for example. I had to do this during a power regression in the kernel. However this isn't a long term arch strategy. Note also that arch has LTS kernels, should you prefer.
  - allerratio 14y ago
    Not updating a package is the best way preventing security flaws to get fixed
    - jvm 14y ago
      If not upgrading the kernel every week or two is a security hole, most people are pretty screwed. I personally do not like to restart that often. Turning off automatic updates just gives you control of when to upgrade.

Tuna-Fish 14y ago

Ubuntu upgrades Kernel major versions to the latest available at the kernel freeze at every release. So, the features in 3.7 will hit Ubuntu systems with 13.04.

shardling 14y ago

If you're rooted, you can often find custom, more up to date Android kernels optimized for various phones. (The android dev community being what it is, sometimes they're not optimized very well, but if you hunt around and find a good one, they can make a difference to battery life/etc.)

jeltz 14y ago

In Debian stable it will probably arrive in about two years in the next Debian (8.0, jessie).

rbanffy 14y ago

IIRC a ton of stuff that was different between Android and mainline were to be merged in 3.7. I suppose the next Android version will use this kernel.

zanny 14y ago

Ubuntu already has a generic 3.7 kernel (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-raring/ http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7-raring/) in the kernel PPA. I'm already running it. Upbuntu usually has a shell script day of to download new releases. New Ubuntu versions are shipped with the latest kernel around the time of commmit freeze and just updates that line to avoid regressions in future kernel releases from harming systems inadvertently.