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I'm really sorry to say, but: too late. Literally 99% of those I know used to be a Yahoo Mail user (Y! Messenger still biggish in Romania, though loosing groun

by Nux 14y ago

I'm really sorry to say, but: too late. Literally 99% of those I know used to be a Yahoo Mail user (Y! Messenger still biggish in Romania, though loosing ground quickly to social networks), but a big part of them are using GMail now. Big, ugly ads and an "anti"-spam engine that makes SpamAssassin look good; what's there to come back to? Plus everyone has a smartphone/tablet now and what's that without a Google/GMail account? Yahoo has become irrelevant.

Gmo 14y ago
Obviously, this just 1 datapoint but ... I still use my original yahoo mail account, and my gmail account did not replace it. Besides, my yahoo spam filter is not worse than my gmail spam filter (I would even say that it has less false positive).
- donretag 14y ago
  Two data points. I've been using my Yahoo account for over a decade. Why should I switch? I would have to change all the services that use the email. I never get spammed on Yahoo, despite it being a very old account. I actually prefer Yahoo over Gmail since it has tabbed emails. I can open several emails at once and compose several at a time. Can't do that with Gmail.
  - Hannan 14y ago
    >>I can open several emails at once and compose several at a time. Can't do that with Gmail. With the new Gmail compose, you can... sort of. It will stack them at the bottom, but only show two "open" at a time (at least on my comp, with a fullscreen chrome window on 1900x1200, maybe you can have more open with a wider screen). Not ideal, but better than it was at least.
dangrossman 14y ago
Yahoo! Mail has more active users than Gmail; almost double in the US market. It's second only to Hotmail with over 300 million unique users. http://visualize.yahoo.com/mail/ http://visualize.yahoo.com/mail/ (see About, or Comscore's 2011 email market share report)
wheels 14y ago
Don't let reality get in the way of your anecdote about what your friends use! http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/will-it-work/email-clients/ http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/will-it-work/email-... Yahoo Mail is still more popular than GMail.
- rubyrescue 14y ago
  great quote. will reuse with my dev team.
- Surio 14y ago
  Don't let reality get in the way of your anecdote about what your friends use! +1 for the way you framed it. :-D I might be reusing it as well.
- baudehlo 14y ago
  Bear in mind that Gmail by default doesn't display images, so their tracking won't work for gmail unless users click "Always show images from ...". I don't know whether Yahoo displays images by default or not.
mtgx 14y ago
I was very reluctant to switch from Yahoo to Gmail in the first few years of Gmail. But eventually I did it, and couldn't believe how much better Gmail was at spam filtering than Yahoo - like an order of magnitude better. I never looked back. Recently I stopped using Yahoo Messenger, too, because they've been adding a lot of nonsense to it lately.
- aidenn0 14y ago
  This surprises me. I don't remember the last time a spam message made it to my inbox with Yahoo. Maybe 7 years ago?
  - passionfruit 14y ago
    I get 10 spam emails a day that get past Yahoo's spam filter. The common factor in all of them is that my address is not in the "To" field. Marking them all as spam for the past several months has been completely ineffective. My solution was to filter all email without my address in the "To" field into another folder. I don't think the Yahoo spam filter works on an individual basis like the gmail filter does.
- dsl 14y ago
  I had a long chat with an engineer from the Yahoo spam team about why Gmail was better, and this was his take: When Gmail started off in beta, the mail filters were amazing. They were trained with a large corpus of Google's employee mail, skewing everything to a technical subject matter and a tightly knit network of contacts. When Gmail hit general availability, the quality of filters was not what average users expected. Things would get flagged simply because Grandma was not in the trusted circle of silicon valley. Eventually they bought Postini, both to boost corporate email business, but also to source a spam filter that had been battle tested across large consumer mail installs.

by Nux 14y ago

Gmo 14y ago

Obviously, this just 1 datapoint but ... I still use my original yahoo mail account, and my gmail account did not replace it. Besides, my yahoo spam filter is not worse than my gmail spam filter (I would even say that it has less false positive).

donretag 14y ago
Two data points. I've been using my Yahoo account for over a decade. Why should I switch? I would have to change all the services that use the email. I never get spammed on Yahoo, despite it being a very old account. I actually prefer Yahoo over Gmail since it has tabbed emails. I can open several emails at once and compose several at a time. Can't do that with Gmail.
- Hannan 14y ago
  >>I can open several emails at once and compose several at a time. Can't do that with Gmail. With the new Gmail compose, you can... sort of. It will stack them at the bottom, but only show two "open" at a time (at least on my comp, with a fullscreen chrome window on 1900x1200, maybe you can have more open with a wider screen). Not ideal, but better than it was at least.

dangrossman 14y ago

Yahoo! Mail has more active users than Gmail; almost double in the US market. It's second only to Hotmail with over 300 million unique users. http://visualize.yahoo.com/mail/ http://visualize.yahoo.com/mail/ (see About, or Comscore's 2011 email market share report)

wheels 14y ago

Don't let reality get in the way of your anecdote about what your friends use! http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/will-it-work/email-clients/ http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/will-it-work/email-... Yahoo Mail is still more popular than GMail.

rubyrescue 14y ago
great quote. will reuse with my dev team.
Surio 14y ago
Don't let reality get in the way of your anecdote about what your friends use! +1 for the way you framed it. :-D I might be reusing it as well.
baudehlo 14y ago
Bear in mind that Gmail by default doesn't display images, so their tracking won't work for gmail unless users click "Always show images from ...". I don't know whether Yahoo displays images by default or not.

mtgx 14y ago

I was very reluctant to switch from Yahoo to Gmail in the first few years of Gmail. But eventually I did it, and couldn't believe how much better Gmail was at spam filtering than Yahoo - like an order of magnitude better. I never looked back. Recently I stopped using Yahoo Messenger, too, because they've been adding a lot of nonsense to it lately.

aidenn0 14y ago
This surprises me. I don't remember the last time a spam message made it to my inbox with Yahoo. Maybe 7 years ago?
- passionfruit 14y ago
  I get 10 spam emails a day that get past Yahoo's spam filter. The common factor in all of them is that my address is not in the "To" field. Marking them all as spam for the past several months has been completely ineffective. My solution was to filter all email without my address in the "To" field into another folder. I don't think the Yahoo spam filter works on an individual basis like the gmail filter does.
dsl 14y ago
I had a long chat with an engineer from the Yahoo spam team about why Gmail was better, and this was his take: When Gmail started off in beta, the mail filters were amazing. They were trained with a large corpus of Google's employee mail, skewing everything to a technical subject matter and a tightly knit network of contacts. When Gmail hit general availability, the quality of filters was not what average users expected. Things would get flagged simply because Grandma was not in the trusted circle of silicon valley. Eventually they bought Postini, both to boost corporate email business, but also to source a spam filter that had been battle tested across large consumer mail installs.