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"Where is the money coming from? " Profitable companies. This is incredibly obvious. It is where dividends come from already. You keep mentioning social secur
by UltraSane 3mo ago
"Where is the money coming from? "
Profitable companies. This is incredibly obvious. It is where dividends come from already.
You keep mentioning social security but it isn't comparable as it has a relatively low income cap on payroll taxes and raising this easily makes it solvent.
What is actually frustrating is the wealth of the richest 400 people in the US now equals 20% of GDP. In 1982 it was only 2%. THE MONEY IS THERE!
- irishcoffee 3mo agoIt’s not. It’s really not. I’m sure you’re familiar with people borrowing against their wealth to avoid taxes. That’s where this fictional money exists.
- UltraSane 3mo agoIt isn't anymore fictional than stock dividends just allocated differently.
- irishcoffee 3mo agoWealthy people are wealthy because of their stock portfolios. If they liquidate that, everything collapses. The money isn’t real, and I think you do understand that.
- UltraSane 3mo agoYou don't seem to know what dividends are. Dividends are x dollars for every share you own that the company gives you that come from the company profits. As a worked example Larry Ellison owns 1.16 billion shares of Oracle. Oracle has paid a total of $1.50 per share in dividends so far in 2026. That is $1.74 billion of liquid cash flowing into Ellison's pocket while Oracle fires tens of thousands of people. Please stop talking if you don't understand what you are talking about.
- irishcoffee 3mo agoYou sincerely think I don’t know what dividends are, given the rest of this discussion? Honestly?
- UltraSane 3mo agoNo because you keep insisting stocks aren't real money but dividend payments absolutely are.
- dekken_ 3mo agoAll fiat is fiction. I was a bit glib in my other comment, but fundamentally there is only energy interactions, and there is no free energy.