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Have you ever used iCloud? It just takes a username and a password and you can replicate anything from an iPhone to another (minus some passwords that may not b

by zuppy 14y ago

Have you ever used iCloud? It just takes a username and a password and you can replicate anything from an iPhone to another (minus some passwords that may not be all saved in iCloud). I don't know what's not working, I had no issue with it.

josteink 14y ago
My impression was that iCloud is OK at getting things from your iPhone elsewhere (like other iPhones), but it doesn't in any way solve the issue of creating a document "in the cloud" (or on your laptop or whatever) and getting access to it on your mobile device. Here is one of the places where iCloud goes tits up. And that's before you bring up the confusion caused by iTunes backup + iCloud, for which there has been numerous reports here and other places, leading to complete data-loss. On the flip side, Google has this nailed. Apple is still trying to get it right, and failing. With "iCloud not working" having over 21 million hits on Google. I think saying the user-experience is lacking is putting it lightly. Google is light-years ahead here.
- rimantas 14y ago
  Really, don't talk about user experience without having any.
  - josteink 14y ago
    Fair enough, but in my defence, I was pretty clear about that this was my impression based on information obtained elsewhere. Still. I don't think there can be any doubt about the main point's validity: Apple was the USB company. They are still trying to find their way out of there. They are responding to Google, not the other way around.
simonh 14y ago
Agreed, as a straightforward sync service for things like bookmarks, preferences, photos, etc it's fine. As a competitor to Google sync it's top notch. The fact that my iPhone photos just show up in iPhoto on the Mac automatically is great. Where it hits limitations is for more complex apps where you want to share more complex content in apps with other apps or other people. It supports specific work flows that Apple has hard-coded into it, but it's hard or impossible to impose your own workflow on it. But then that's no different from other basic sync service like Google Sync, instant upload, etc. As a competitor to them it's fine, but as a competitor to Dropbox it's got a long way to go.

by zuppy 14y ago

josteink 14y ago

My impression was that iCloud is OK at getting things from your iPhone elsewhere (like other iPhones), but it doesn't in any way solve the issue of creating a document "in the cloud" (or on your laptop or whatever) and getting access to it on your mobile device. Here is one of the places where iCloud goes tits up. And that's before you bring up the confusion caused by iTunes backup + iCloud, for which there has been numerous reports here and other places, leading to complete data-loss. On the flip side, Google has this nailed. Apple is still trying to get it right, and failing. With "iCloud not working" having over 21 million hits on Google. I think saying the user-experience is lacking is putting it lightly. Google is light-years ahead here.

rimantas 14y ago
Really, don't talk about user experience without having any.
- josteink 14y ago
  Fair enough, but in my defence, I was pretty clear about that this was my impression based on information obtained elsewhere. Still. I don't think there can be any doubt about the main point's validity: Apple was the USB company. They are still trying to find their way out of there. They are responding to Google, not the other way around.

simonh 14y ago

Agreed, as a straightforward sync service for things like bookmarks, preferences, photos, etc it's fine. As a competitor to Google sync it's top notch. The fact that my iPhone photos just show up in iPhoto on the Mac automatically is great. Where it hits limitations is for more complex apps where you want to share more complex content in apps with other apps or other people. It supports specific work flows that Apple has hard-coded into it, but it's hard or impossible to impose your own workflow on it. But then that's no different from other basic sync service like Google Sync, instant upload, etc. As a competitor to them it's fine, but as a competitor to Dropbox it's got a long way to go.