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Human in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autono

Human in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autonomous drones. That's the only real solution to jamming.

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adastra22 2mo ago
What does that have to do with LLMs hosted by Anthropic. They didn't say the Dept of War couldn't make kill bots. They said no using Claude to make kill decisions. A quadcopter drone running on a Raspberry Pi isn't running an Anthropic model locally.
hahajk 2mo ago
anthropic's models would also be useless in a jammed environment though
- hkt 2mo ago
  and the only way to use them would be to blow up A100s
storus 2mo ago
No, they are using long optical cables attached to drones. The battlefield looks like a giant spider web afterwards.
- encrypted_bird 2mo ago
  I genuinely can't tell if you're joking, though I'd like to believe you are...
  - x3n0ph3n3 2mo ago
    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-drones-weave-spiderweb-battlefields-in-ukraine/ar-AA1T4s5Q https://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-dro...
  - ls612 2mo ago
    Fiber optic drones are real but the fully autonomous drones others are describing are also real (but less publicized due to the bad PR around killbots)
- subarctic 2mo ago
  Are they still doing that? I saw that months ago
- Stevvo 2mo ago
  Fiber optic drones were last year's weapon of choice, this year it is drones with autonomous terminal phase. This happened because the AI data center build-out increased demand for fiber optics, driving up the price to less affordable levels. Autonomous terminal phase is also more effective; ~80% mission success compared to ~30% for fiber optic drone.
hkt 2mo ago
Not true, fibre controlled drones are actually pretty important out there right now: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-optics-drones-have-emerged-as-critical-kit-for-both-russia-and-ukraine/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-opt...
- daymanstep 2mo ago
  Not viable for long range strikes.
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adastra22 2mo ago

What does that have to do with LLMs hosted by Anthropic. They didn't say the Dept of War couldn't make kill bots. They said no using Claude to make kill decisions. A quadcopter drone running on a Raspberry Pi isn't running an Anthropic model locally.

hahajk 2mo ago

anthropic's models would also be useless in a jammed environment though

hkt 2mo ago
and the only way to use them would be to blow up A100s

storus 2mo ago

No, they are using long optical cables attached to drones. The battlefield looks like a giant spider web afterwards.

encrypted_bird 2mo ago
I genuinely can't tell if you're joking, though I'd like to believe you are...
- x3n0ph3n3 2mo ago
  https://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-drones-weave-spiderweb-battlefields-in-ukraine/ar-AA1T4s5Q https://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-dro...
- ls612 2mo ago
  Fiber optic drones are real but the fully autonomous drones others are describing are also real (but less publicized due to the bad PR around killbots)
subarctic 2mo ago
Are they still doing that? I saw that months ago
Stevvo 2mo ago
Fiber optic drones were last year's weapon of choice, this year it is drones with autonomous terminal phase. This happened because the AI data center build-out increased demand for fiber optics, driving up the price to less affordable levels. Autonomous terminal phase is also more effective; ~80% mission success compared to ~30% for fiber optic drone.

hkt 2mo ago

Not true, fibre controlled drones are actually pretty important out there right now: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-optics-drones-have-emerged-as-critical-kit-for-both-russia-and-ukraine/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-opt...

daymanstep 2mo ago
Not viable for long range strikes.

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