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> I have no idea why HN still treats them like their the ethical good guy. I don't know that HN usually does. But they did buy a decent amount of publicity by
by cogman10 3mo ago
> I have no idea why HN still treats them like their the ethical good guy.
I don't know that HN usually does. But they did buy a decent amount of publicity by (initially) telling the US government no in using the models for war.
- adastra22 3mo agoThey never did that. They said all they required was a human in the loop for kill decisions. No autonomous kill drones.
- cschep 3mo agoThey did something Sam wouldn't do at the very least.
- daymanstep 3mo agoHuman in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autonomous drones. That's the only real solution to jamming.
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- adastra22 3mo agoWhat does that have to do with LLMs hosted by Anthropic. They didn't say the Dept of War couldn't make kill bots. They said no using Claude to make kill decisions. A quadcopter drone running on a Raspberry Pi isn't running an Anthropic model locally.
- hahajk 3mo agoanthropic's models would also be useless in a jammed environment though
- hkt 3mo agoand the only way to use them would be to blow up A100s
- storus 3mo agoNo, they are using long optical cables attached to drones. The battlefield looks like a giant spider web afterwards.
- encrypted_bird 3mo agoI genuinely can't tell if you're joking, though I'd like to believe you are...
- x3n0ph3n3 3mo agohttps://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-drones-weave-spiderweb-battlefields-in-ukraine/ar-AA1T4s5Q https://www.msn.com/en-xl/technology/general/fiber-optic-dro...
- ls612 3mo agoFiber optic drones are real but the fully autonomous drones others are describing are also real (but less publicized due to the bad PR around killbots)
- subarctic 3mo agoAre they still doing that? I saw that months ago
- Stevvo 3mo agoFiber optic drones were last year's weapon of choice, this year it is drones with autonomous terminal phase. This happened because the AI data center build-out increased demand for fiber optics, driving up the price to less affordable levels. Autonomous terminal phase is also more effective; ~80% mission success compared to ~30% for fiber optic drone.
- hkt 3mo agoNot true, fibre controlled drones are actually pretty important out there right now: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-optics-drones-have-emerged-as-critical-kit-for-both-russia-and-ukraine/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-opt...
- daymanstep 3mo agoNot viable for long range strikes.
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- paradoxyl 3mo agoyes, what paragrons of virtue who lie about all their financials.
- froggit 3mo agoIs it still lying if they just lost track of where all the debt is hidden and stopped caring about those little things? They're seriously like 2 months out from achieving AGI and making more money than god.
- kelvinjps10 3mo agoAnthropic gained momentum in terms of public opinion, when they launched the no ads campaign and then after not supporting the use of AI without supervision in the military. And now it seems it has been lost after incidents like (people getting incorrect bills) their handling of fable etc
- anon373839 3mo agoPersonally, I never bought the good-guys act. But judging from the HN pulse, it seems to me that the decisive moment when Anthropic lost its halo is when it decided to start silently sabotaging users working on LLM research that might compete with Anthropic. It was so blatantly monopolistic and abusive that it seemed to be mask-off moment for many.