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Indeed, and it would have saved far more lives if leveraged the app to have hazmat crews come in a forcibly carry the infected to quarantine zones.

markdown 2mo ago
Sadly that wasn't possible in the US political climate and maybe a million people lost their lives as a result.
- tecoholic 2mo ago
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  - dwedge 2mo ago
    As much as he says a lot of stupid stuff this bleach one always annoyed me because the full clip clearly showed that he wasn't talking about bleach he was talking about looking to find something as effective as bleach, and he was repeating something from an advisor who then pretended to not hear him when he asked. It always seemed like a media setup and I always dislike those no matter how bad the target is
- bacheaul 2mo ago
  I think they're being facetious, this is basically a distopian movie plot point.
cutterl6 2mo ago
I doubt it, unless their hazmat suits are bullet-proof.
- aeternum 2mo ago
  Agreed, and I'm happy to live in a country where this is likely true. The only thing more deadly than pandemics are governments that gained sufficient power to round up their citizens systematically in the name of the public good.
  - mdgld 2mo ago
    If you think that the 1:30 ratio of guns to people in the US is going to stop the government from doing whatever the fuck they want, you are suffering from a potentially terminal case of optimism. I am an ardent believer in “Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”(even though the context was the Penn family bribing the governor to avoid taxation, I still align with both the original and modern meanings), but a “well-armed militia” isn’t doing jack against an FBI task force or god forbid the military, which has recently been deployed in ever more dubiously-justifiable ways domestically.
    - AngryData 2mo ago
      You say that, and yet insurgents with a tiny fraction of the population using mostly 60s era guns with zero access to the US economy and base logistical stores or sources managed to keep the US on their toes for two decades. A single redneck in Texas with a hunting rifle has 100x more damage potential to the US military and economy than 1000 middle eastern insurgents.
    - cutterl6 2mo ago
      You underestimate how little resistance it takes to make a difference. It's not about every free man in the country single-handedly holding off the might of the US military on his doorstep. As soon as a single shot is fired in defence, every thug now has to think twice before busting down a door. The game changes. Tyranny becomes a whole lot less efficient. You send an FBI task force or god forbid the military to interfere with the life of a peaceful stranger and now you've given every man in the country a damn good reason to get himself organised for when they come for his family. It's clearly not about a flu, at that point.
- joering2 2mo ago
  Please. You could defend yourself from first or second hazmat wearing person that comes to your house, it would be very much different story defending yourself from SWAT team, then remotely detonating drones, finally if it all fails, try to defend yourself against B52.
  - cutterl6 2mo ago
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    - Per_Bothner 2mo ago
      I haven't figured out how to flag a comment as offense - but the term "zog soldier" is anti-semitic and does not belong on HN.
      - cutterl6 2mo ago
        Remember, when the time comes: traitors first.
justthehuman 2mo ago
Didn't actually this happen in China? Maybe the videos were fake, but I saw at least a couple of this happening.
- wrycoder 2mo ago
  That was Australia. In China, they welded the doors to their housing units shut.
  - nhinck3 2mo ago
    Really? I suppose you'll be able to provide proof that people were forcibly taken?
    - perpetuallunch 2mo ago
      Dramatic arrest footage shows police surrounding elderly women sitting on park bench https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/dramatic-arrest-footage-shows-police-surrounding-elderly-women-sitting-on-park-bench/news-story/c06a48699bf035b62408708a1f98dcb1 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/dra... The arrest of a woman in Australia for promoting an anti-lockdown protest online has drawn criticism, after video of the incident went viral. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824 A Victorian police officer who was filmed grabbing a woman around the neck after approaching her for not wearing a face mask earlier this year will face no disciplinary action. https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/victoria-police-officer-in-viral-choking-arrest-video-cleared-after-internal-investigation/news-story/53bc9726db12ceb9063876f46a213203 https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/victoria...
      - no_carrier 2mo ago
        None of your three examples provide any evidence of hazmat crews forcibly taking away infected people. In fact, your links have absolutely nothing to do with anything at all. It's reasonable to assume that police would arrest people breaching curfew orders. Under no circumstances was anyone in Australia forcibly removed by people in hazmat suits.

markdown 2mo ago

Sadly that wasn't possible in the US political climate and maybe a million people lost their lives as a result.

tecoholic 2mo ago
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- dwedge 2mo ago
  As much as he says a lot of stupid stuff this bleach one always annoyed me because the full clip clearly showed that he wasn't talking about bleach he was talking about looking to find something as effective as bleach, and he was repeating something from an advisor who then pretended to not hear him when he asked. It always seemed like a media setup and I always dislike those no matter how bad the target is
bacheaul 2mo ago
I think they're being facetious, this is basically a distopian movie plot point.

cutterl6 2mo ago

I doubt it, unless their hazmat suits are bullet-proof.

aeternum 2mo ago
Agreed, and I'm happy to live in a country where this is likely true. The only thing more deadly than pandemics are governments that gained sufficient power to round up their citizens systematically in the name of the public good.
- mdgld 2mo ago
  If you think that the 1:30 ratio of guns to people in the US is going to stop the government from doing whatever the fuck they want, you are suffering from a potentially terminal case of optimism. I am an ardent believer in “Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”(even though the context was the Penn family bribing the governor to avoid taxation, I still align with both the original and modern meanings), but a “well-armed militia” isn’t doing jack against an FBI task force or god forbid the military, which has recently been deployed in ever more dubiously-justifiable ways domestically.
  - AngryData 2mo ago
    You say that, and yet insurgents with a tiny fraction of the population using mostly 60s era guns with zero access to the US economy and base logistical stores or sources managed to keep the US on their toes for two decades. A single redneck in Texas with a hunting rifle has 100x more damage potential to the US military and economy than 1000 middle eastern insurgents.
  - cutterl6 2mo ago
    You underestimate how little resistance it takes to make a difference. It's not about every free man in the country single-handedly holding off the might of the US military on his doorstep. As soon as a single shot is fired in defence, every thug now has to think twice before busting down a door. The game changes. Tyranny becomes a whole lot less efficient. You send an FBI task force or god forbid the military to interfere with the life of a peaceful stranger and now you've given every man in the country a damn good reason to get himself organised for when they come for his family. It's clearly not about a flu, at that point.
joering2 2mo ago
Please. You could defend yourself from first or second hazmat wearing person that comes to your house, it would be very much different story defending yourself from SWAT team, then remotely detonating drones, finally if it all fails, try to defend yourself against B52.
- cutterl6 2mo ago
  [flagged]
  - Per_Bothner 2mo ago
    I haven't figured out how to flag a comment as offense - but the term "zog soldier" is anti-semitic and does not belong on HN.
    - cutterl6 2mo ago
      Remember, when the time comes: traitors first.

justthehuman 2mo ago

Didn't actually this happen in China? Maybe the videos were fake, but I saw at least a couple of this happening.

wrycoder 2mo ago
That was Australia. In China, they welded the doors to their housing units shut.
- nhinck3 2mo ago
  Really? I suppose you'll be able to provide proof that people were forcibly taken?
  - perpetuallunch 2mo ago
    Dramatic arrest footage shows police surrounding elderly women sitting on park bench https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/dramatic-arrest-footage-shows-police-surrounding-elderly-women-sitting-on-park-bench/news-story/c06a48699bf035b62408708a1f98dcb1 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/dra... The arrest of a woman in Australia for promoting an anti-lockdown protest online has drawn criticism, after video of the incident went viral. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824 A Victorian police officer who was filmed grabbing a woman around the neck after approaching her for not wearing a face mask earlier this year will face no disciplinary action. https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/victoria-police-officer-in-viral-choking-arrest-video-cleared-after-internal-investigation/news-story/53bc9726db12ceb9063876f46a213203 https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/victoria...
    - no_carrier 2mo ago
      None of your three examples provide any evidence of hazmat crews forcibly taking away infected people. In fact, your links have absolutely nothing to do with anything at all. It's reasonable to assume that police would arrest people breaching curfew orders. Under no circumstances was anyone in Australia forcibly removed by people in hazmat suits.