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Criminal Cases of 'hacking' require specific intent. What you're asking is that the prosecution attempt to prove Open AI intended to infiltrate Huggingface mali
by famouswaffles 3mo ago
Criminal Cases of 'hacking' require specific intent. What you're asking is that the prosecution attempt to prove Open AI intended to infiltrate Huggingface maliciously, all while the victim is saying 'no harm no foul'.
No offense but prosecutors have better things to do with their time.
- bluGill 3mo agoI don't care about intent. That it happened is unacceptable. Ignorance is not an excuse
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- johntb86 3mo agoIntent often matters in the law (aside from certain laws with strict liability). You intentionally drive your car into someone you hate and kill them => murder, go straight to jail. You're driving along normally and someone who's chasing their pet cat suddenly runs into traffic and you hit them => no charges. Sometimes you can be charged with negligence for not taking enough care to prevent something, but then you have to deal with the tricky question of how much care is enough.
- munk-a 3mo agoIf you're driving along normally and then tie a blindfold around your face and hit someone you've taken actions that still expose you to liability. And, in the case that you hit someone who is chasing their pet cat into traffic then you'd better hope you were following every facet of safe driving - being distracted, drunk or on your phone could easily result in you being charged.
- Analemma_ 3mo agoIf intent matters when LLMs get involved, then we can't do anything even if they kill millions of people. Anything LLM-related should involve strict liability.
- famouswaffles 3mo agoGet back to me when they kill millions of people then. Like I said, prosecutors have better things to do.
- munk-a 3mo agoGross negligence can stand in for intent. I believe a rather compelling case could be developed on the basis that a system believed to be capable of this was developed and improperly secured.
- rubyfan 3mo agoBut what’s the crime? The thing got out of its poorly secured cage and caused what damage? Imagine instead of an agent it was a dog or a chimpanzee that got into the neighbor’s yard and the particular neighbor isn’t even pissed about it.
- irthomasthomas 3mo agoAaron Schwartz was being prosecuted and threatened with 35 years in jail for the crime of saving research papers to a thumb drive. What damage did he cause?