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Ground troops have to invade Iran. Trump can't do that now because of upcoming midterm elections. After the elections, if there is no other way then Trump has t

by petilon 2mo ago

Ground troops have to invade Iran. Trump can't do that now because of upcoming midterm elections. After the elections, if there is no other way then Trump has to send ground troops in.

logicchains 2mo ago
The alternative is it just destroy all their oil infrastructure and wait for the regime to collapse from lack of funds. But Trump doesn't want to do that (or let Israel do it) because he dreams of taking all that oil for himself and his buddies like in Venezuela.
- danbruc 2mo ago
  If you do that, the oil, gas, and desalination infrastructure of the Gulf states will go down together with Iran. And besides that, why do you want to fight Iran to begin with?
- jimbob45 2mo ago
  This gets downvoted and ignored in every thread I see, not just on this website. But how is this not obviously the answer? We know Russia and China are funneling money to Iran so it would be a double win to drain their coffers too. Morality aside, I just don’t see how this has been ignored. I know there is a large push for peace by many of the leaders of Iran and it turns out decentralized power can be a double-edged sword. Still, they can’t hold out forever.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Because destroying the world's oil infrastructure guarantees the collapse of the USA?
  - frollogaston 2mo ago
    Morality aside, I don't see how we'd benefit from this. I do see how Israel would benefit, that's why they keep pushing us to do it.
danbruc 2mo ago
Ground troops. Not going to happen or will become a disaster. And even if, what exactly would be their mission?
- ceejayoz 2mo ago
  > Not going to happen or will become a disaster. The one coherent rule of this administration is that "will become a disaster" is not a part of the decision making process.
- colpabar 2mo ago
  to die for israel
biorach 2mo ago
Forget Iraq, forget Afghanistan... because This Time It's Different and of course ground troops _have_ to invade Iraq, Saddam has WMD's. And it will finally bring stability to the region. And they _have_ to invade Afghanistan, there is no way to take out bin Laden otherwise. And it will finally bring stability to the region. Casualties will be minimal because the oppressed natives will welcome us as liberators and our overwhelming military superiority will ensure our troops suffer no casualties.
- frollogaston 2mo ago
  They didn't even change the excuse, it's supposedly WMDs again
padjo 2mo ago
If you thought Afghanistan was a disaster, Iran would be at least 10 times worse.
- petilon 2mo ago
  There are no good choices here. It is either ground invasion and restore Ahmadinejad to power, or accept defeat and accept whatever "protection fee" Iran wants to charge ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
  - ferbivore 2mo ago
    How are these equivalent? Yes, if you've started a pointless unjust war that you can't win, the right thing to do is say mea culpa, accept whatever fees the other party charges and fuck off forever. Not try your best to start WWIII just because, hell, we already killed 3000 civilians, might as well try to beat our high score from Iraq, right?
strictnein 2mo ago
People have been saying we're going to invade Iran for almost 25 years now. It's always just about to happen, yet never does.
- Braxton1980 2mo ago
  Who has been saying that?
hardbass 2mo ago
I believe IDF accepts foreign volunteers if they are Jewish. I could be wrong. If you are a jew, you can join now. You don't have to wait for the USA to send troops.
- ButlerianJihad 2mo ago
  I volunteered on the condition that they send Gal Gadot to train me. After I signed all the papers, Netta Barzilai showed up on my doorstep!
  - deleted 2mo ago
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  - frollogaston 2mo ago
    lol, absolutely brutal joke out of nowhere

by petilon 2mo ago

Ground troops have to invade Iran. Trump can't do that now because of upcoming midterm elections. After the elections, if there is no other way then Trump has to send ground troops in.

logicchains 2mo ago

The alternative is it just destroy all their oil infrastructure and wait for the regime to collapse from lack of funds. But Trump doesn't want to do that (or let Israel do it) because he dreams of taking all that oil for himself and his buddies like in Venezuela.

danbruc 2mo ago
If you do that, the oil, gas, and desalination infrastructure of the Gulf states will go down together with Iran. And besides that, why do you want to fight Iran to begin with?
jimbob45 2mo ago
This gets downvoted and ignored in every thread I see, not just on this website. But how is this not obviously the answer? We know Russia and China are funneling money to Iran so it would be a double win to drain their coffers too. Morality aside, I just don’t see how this has been ignored. I know there is a large push for peace by many of the leaders of Iran and it turns out decentralized power can be a double-edged sword. Still, they can’t hold out forever.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Because destroying the world's oil infrastructure guarantees the collapse of the USA?
- frollogaston 2mo ago
  Morality aside, I don't see how we'd benefit from this. I do see how Israel would benefit, that's why they keep pushing us to do it.

danbruc 2mo ago

Ground troops. Not going to happen or will become a disaster. And even if, what exactly would be their mission?

ceejayoz 2mo ago
> Not going to happen or will become a disaster. The one coherent rule of this administration is that "will become a disaster" is not a part of the decision making process.
colpabar 2mo ago
to die for israel

biorach 2mo ago

Forget Iraq, forget Afghanistan... because This Time It's Different and of course ground troops _have_ to invade Iraq, Saddam has WMD's. And it will finally bring stability to the region. And they _have_ to invade Afghanistan, there is no way to take out bin Laden otherwise. And it will finally bring stability to the region. Casualties will be minimal because the oppressed natives will welcome us as liberators and our overwhelming military superiority will ensure our troops suffer no casualties.

frollogaston 2mo ago
They didn't even change the excuse, it's supposedly WMDs again

padjo 2mo ago

If you thought Afghanistan was a disaster, Iran would be at least 10 times worse.

petilon 2mo ago
There are no good choices here. It is either ground invasion and restore Ahmadinejad to power, or accept defeat and accept whatever "protection fee" Iran wants to charge ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
- ferbivore 2mo ago
  How are these equivalent? Yes, if you've started a pointless unjust war that you can't win, the right thing to do is say mea culpa, accept whatever fees the other party charges and fuck off forever. Not try your best to start WWIII just because, hell, we already killed 3000 civilians, might as well try to beat our high score from Iraq, right?

strictnein 2mo ago

People have been saying we're going to invade Iran for almost 25 years now. It's always just about to happen, yet never does.

Braxton1980 2mo ago
Who has been saying that?

hardbass 2mo ago

I believe IDF accepts foreign volunteers if they are Jewish. I could be wrong. If you are a jew, you can join now. You don't have to wait for the USA to send troops.

ButlerianJihad 2mo ago
I volunteered on the condition that they send Gal Gadot to train me. After I signed all the papers, Netta Barzilai showed up on my doorstep!
- deleted 2mo ago
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- frollogaston 2mo ago
  lol, absolutely brutal joke out of nowhere