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Apparently the first use of the hyphen disagrees: > The first known documentation of the hyphen is in the grammatical works of Dionysius Thrax. At the time, hy

Apparently the first use of the hyphen disagrees: > The first known documentation of the hyphen is in the grammatical works of Dionysius Thrax. At the time, hyphenation was joining two pieces of text that might otherwise be read as two separate words by a low tie mark. This was necessary due to the ambiguity inherent in the lack of word spacing. In Greek these marks were known as enotikon, officially romanized as a hyphen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen

pimlottc 3mo ago
That’s the first use, and in another language to boot. Usage changes over time.
treetalker 3mo ago
If I understand correctly, that wouldn’t change things: hyphens are used in English to link words (e.g., “work-product privilege” — the noun work modifies the noun product, and the two together modify the noun privilege) but two linked nouns of equal importance are a special case. (Not my intent to be pedantic.) This is not the best source (I’m pressed for time) but it gives a decent explanation: https://editorsmanual.com/articles/en-dash/#elements-of-equal-importance-connected-by-an-en-dash https://editorsmanual.com/articles/en-dash/#elements-of-equa...
- gwerbin 3mo ago
  I have never heard of this role and I'm not aware of anyone who follows it. The document you linked says that it's only used "in certain styles". So it sounds like a stylistic choice that an editor may choose to use or not, rather than a rule to be followed everywhere.
  - treetalker 3mo ago
    Fair enough. I first learned of it on law review in law school, from the Texas Law Review’s Manual of Style.
  - umpalumpaaa 3mo ago
    This is very common parlance in law
  - ObscureScience 3mo ago
    That seems to be the case with linguistic- and group practices in general. It's not universal law, and while the overlap of correctness and even best practice is pretty big, there are still differences. Subject matter, language, abstract institution (universities), concrete ditto (Oxford, Chalmers, Max Planck IoT, Royal Academy of {country}), register/style (daily newspaper, tabloid), etc.

pimlottc 3mo ago

That’s the first use, and in another language to boot. Usage changes over time.

treetalker 3mo ago

If I understand correctly, that wouldn’t change things: hyphens are used in English to link words (e.g., “work-product privilege” — the noun work modifies the noun product, and the two together modify the noun privilege) but two linked nouns of equal importance are a special case. (Not my intent to be pedantic.) This is not the best source (I’m pressed for time) but it gives a decent explanation: https://editorsmanual.com/articles/en-dash/#elements-of-equal-importance-connected-by-an-en-dash https://editorsmanual.com/articles/en-dash/#elements-of-equa...

gwerbin 3mo ago
I have never heard of this role and I'm not aware of anyone who follows it. The document you linked says that it's only used "in certain styles". So it sounds like a stylistic choice that an editor may choose to use or not, rather than a rule to be followed everywhere.
- treetalker 3mo ago
  Fair enough. I first learned of it on law review in law school, from the Texas Law Review’s Manual of Style.
- umpalumpaaa 3mo ago
  This is very common parlance in law
- ObscureScience 3mo ago
  That seems to be the case with linguistic- and group practices in general. It's not universal law, and while the overlap of correctness and even best practice is pretty big, there are still differences. Subject matter, language, abstract institution (universities), concrete ditto (Oxford, Chalmers, Max Planck IoT, Royal Academy of {country}), register/style (daily newspaper, tabloid), etc.