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There comes a time. How many apartments have been bombed by Russia?

p-e-w 2mo ago
The laws of war apply at all times to all belligerents, and the enemy breaking them does not justify breaking them in turn. If the current global crisis ever ends, how the world deals with human rights violations on both sides of this conflict will reveal whether any of this actually matters, or whether it’s all just a slugfest where the only objective is to determine who comes out on top.
- Xalutiono 2mo ago
  I never understood 'laws of war'. there is no law in war. Please country a only fight with this type of attacks so that the people you kill are only people forced to fight against you to protect themselves but not the civilians. War is war. You kill and destroy a country thats it. Its not a conflict? Russia/Putin started to attack Ukraine. Thats it, russia is bad, ukraine is not. Oh no don't use cluster bombs they are bad / different bad than normal bombs. Btw. if countries like the USA wouldn't create cluster bombs, Saudi Arabia couldn't use them against civilians.
  - yukai 2mo ago
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    - Xalutiono 2mo ago
      Because every other country on the planet would declare war and i would also assume USA would assesinate Putin for it.
      - yukai 2mo ago
        so there are laws of war. you speak too big for how much you think
    - microtonal 2mo ago
      Early in the war there have been discussions about this and the rumblings were that Russia wanted to use tactical nukes on the battlefield, but China said "no". https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-reacts-after-russia-changes-nuclear-war-policy-ukraine-1947545 https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-reacts-after-russia-chan... Apparently they still regularly do: https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-china-urged-vladimir-putin-not-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine/ https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-china-ur... I am happy that some cooler heads prevail.
- excieve 2mo ago
  There's no such thing as "both sides" here. It's a fundamentally flawed argument in this war. One country launched an unprovoked full scale war on a much smaller country with the goal of a colonial conquest (hopefully that's very clear by now). The amount of atrocities it has already done against Ukraine and its people will never be outweighted by pretty much anything Ukraine can do in the future as a part of its literal survival efforts. Besides this, the laws only exist when there's something to enforce them. Has anything (apart from Ukraine's "kinetic sanctions") been enforcing much on the invader to make them obey those "laws"? At least treating POWs with dignity (like Ukraine generally does btw) and not putting them through the Gulag system that russia has revived with newfound cruelty?
Drupon 2mo ago
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- SideburnsOfDoom 2mo ago
  Could you expand on that please - what exactly do you mean and how did you arrive at that conclusion?
  - Drupon 2mo ago
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p-e-w 2mo ago

The laws of war apply at all times to all belligerents, and the enemy breaking them does not justify breaking them in turn. If the current global crisis ever ends, how the world deals with human rights violations on both sides of this conflict will reveal whether any of this actually matters, or whether it’s all just a slugfest where the only objective is to determine who comes out on top.

Xalutiono 2mo ago
I never understood 'laws of war'. there is no law in war. Please country a only fight with this type of attacks so that the people you kill are only people forced to fight against you to protect themselves but not the civilians. War is war. You kill and destroy a country thats it. Its not a conflict? Russia/Putin started to attack Ukraine. Thats it, russia is bad, ukraine is not. Oh no don't use cluster bombs they are bad / different bad than normal bombs. Btw. if countries like the USA wouldn't create cluster bombs, Saudi Arabia couldn't use them against civilians.
- yukai 2mo ago
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  - Xalutiono 2mo ago
    Because every other country on the planet would declare war and i would also assume USA would assesinate Putin for it.
    - yukai 2mo ago
      so there are laws of war. you speak too big for how much you think
  - microtonal 2mo ago
    Early in the war there have been discussions about this and the rumblings were that Russia wanted to use tactical nukes on the battlefield, but China said "no". https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-reacts-after-russia-changes-nuclear-war-policy-ukraine-1947545 https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-reacts-after-russia-chan... Apparently they still regularly do: https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-china-urged-vladimir-putin-not-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine/ https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-china-ur... I am happy that some cooler heads prevail.
excieve 2mo ago
There's no such thing as "both sides" here. It's a fundamentally flawed argument in this war. One country launched an unprovoked full scale war on a much smaller country with the goal of a colonial conquest (hopefully that's very clear by now). The amount of atrocities it has already done against Ukraine and its people will never be outweighted by pretty much anything Ukraine can do in the future as a part of its literal survival efforts. Besides this, the laws only exist when there's something to enforce them. Has anything (apart from Ukraine's "kinetic sanctions") been enforcing much on the invader to make them obey those "laws"? At least treating POWs with dignity (like Ukraine generally does btw) and not putting them through the Gulag system that russia has revived with newfound cruelty?

Drupon 2mo ago

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SideburnsOfDoom 2mo ago
Could you expand on that please - what exactly do you mean and how did you arrive at that conclusion?
- Drupon 2mo ago
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