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You can bet that most people on those plans do not tokenmax.

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• lelanthran 3mo ago
  I'll bet the other way: the plan is not cost effective unless you are coding, and even the most junior developer, so green they almost need mowing, are going to throw the agents into a loop. I can not imagine some shelling out $200/month and then using that product lightly.
  • nl 3mo ago
    > I can not imagine some shelling out $200/month and then using that product lightly. The people paying for the plan are not the same people using it. Of 6 people I have data on the $200/plan only 2 regularly use more than $400 value. > I'll bet the other way: the plan is not cost effective unless you are coding The person I've personally seen use the most tokens isn't a coder. They do the "second brain" thing and wow it uses a lot of tokens. They believe in the value, and TBH I've seen them do some pretty interesting and impressive things with it. > the most junior developer, so green they almost need mowing, are going to throw the agents into a loop I think this is also true. But loops actually hit the cache a lot and most people who are calculating the value they are getting from a subscription aren't taking this into account. SemiAnalysis published a snippet of their analysis, and they believe their tokens are an effective price of $0.99/million, rather than $20/million the naive pricing calculation would give you.
• monk_grilla 3mo ago
  Tokenmaxxing is referring to the phenomenon of developers in big tech deliberately trying to use as many tokens as possible because it is a KPI? Then yeah, I would say you're right that plan users don't, probably for the best.