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...seriously? Where do I jump ship to now?
by terribleperson 2mo ago
...seriously?
Where do I jump ship to now?
- deadalus 2mo agoPorkbun. Yes, Cloudflare Domains exists but let's support the small guys.
- cube00 2mo agoGiven Cloudflare's reputation for shakedowns once you pass their undisclosed thresholds I wouldn't trust them with my domains. I'm not expecting something for nothing, we all need to eat. I'm happy to stay within any limits or even have no free tier at all. I just don't want the fear of waking up to a sales email one morning demanding I suddenly fork out more then I earn in a year off the project for an enterprise plan because I've exceeded their undisclosed thresholds.
- ElijahLynn 2mo agoCan you expand more on cloudflare's shakedowns? I have some domains on Cloudflare and thought they were a trustworthy service. Is there there anything particular you can point to?
- 0x3f 2mo agoIt's just traffic based: sales try to get you on a paid plan, or a higher tier. For some accounts they've given ultimatums ("pay for the higher tier by x date or we have to stop providing service"). But I believe those cases were e.g. online casinos doing specific things with the platform (say, evading national blocks on gambling websites) IIRC.
- cube00 2mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 You could argue in that case it was a gambling site and it will never happen to you because you're not in a high risk category. The scary thing for me is nowhere in their initial communications did they explain the issue they just demanded $120k upfront (refusing monthly billing). The CEO who is usually active on HN didn't show up to give their side either, there's no way they couldn't have been aware of a 1044 upvoted post which also went viral elsewhere https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481979 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481979
- kevindamm 2mo agoI think they're referring to the Enterprise sales where people have felt pressured to sign six- or seven- figure contracts after usage goes above a certain point. However, all the articles I've read on it are from companies using Cloudflare to do suspicious things with rotating domains through IP addresses, or doing things to try and get around service costs. It also seems like they give you months of warning and will try to convince you to sign up for Enterprise, they don't just shut things off. But their sales team seems to portray themselves as legal, support, or compliance teams sometimes so not exactly forthcoming in their approach either. I'm a happy user of Cloudflare, but if you're using it for domain registration and hosting infrastructure, you need to see it as a single point of failure. Any account issues and you won't be able to point your domain to an alternate host while you work things out. Any service outage in CF systems will similarly lock you out of routing around the failure. It's better to have DNS off of cloudflare if they're handling your hosting services also. Or host elsewhere and only handle domains on cloudflare. Their domain pricing doesn't add any costs over the base registrar cost, so the latter is a reasonable option.
- kibwen 2mo agoIt would be worth recommending a non-US-based registrar, since the Texas government just demonstrated that they can unilaterally suspend any domain managed by any US registrar.
- dabber 2mo agoAre you referring to what happened with motherless? If so, using a non-US-based registrar probably wouldn't have made a difference in that case. The court order that took the domain offline targeted the .com registry operated by Verisign, not any individual registrar.
- Imagenuity 2mo agoI've been using Porkbun for several years now. No problems and terrific service.
- kilroy123 2mo agoI moved all my from name cheap to porkbun years ago.
- joshuamcginnis 2mo agoI like https://www.dynadot.com/ https://www.dynadot.com/. Good prices and privately owned for 30+ years.
- wrs 2mo agoThey say they started in 2002, but same here, I've had hundreds of domains on Dynadot since the early 2000s with no problems.
- joecool1029 2mo agoBeen moving all my domains to them for a couple years now. Happy so far with them and they handle some of the harder tld’s to find a registrar for.
- deejaaymac 2mo agoPorkbun!
- punk_ihaq 2mo agoI've been a happy customer of https://njal.la/ https://njal.la/ for years
- OutOfHere 2mo agoTwo more are NearlyFreeSpeech and UnstoppableDomains. The latter also supports crypto domains which have no chance of a takeover except by government order, although crypto domains require the client to install a browser extension or other software to resolve. The good thing about crypto domains is that there should be no renewal fee, although there will be a fee to update the record.
- iamnothere 2mo agoSeconding the NFSN recommendation, they are great if you are technically competent. They even have optional security settings that can permanently lock you out of your account if you lose your recovery credentials, in case you want to be super strict about it. They are very clear that recovery will be impossible if you use those settings. I really like this and wish more services would offer this kind of “hard” commitment.
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- Biganon 2mo agoI have everything at Infomaniak. Granted, I'm Swiss, but I think they're great for anyone.
- progbits 2mo agoYou can also buy .is domains directly from the ISNIC registry. Or .de, .to, and few others support that. No registrar needed, they are useless middlemen anyway.