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the cultiness is why I left crypto and atproto, it plagues many great ideas by creating in and out groups around opinions on the right way to do things

pfraze 3mo ago
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- verdverm 3mo ago
  I'm not sure why you always feel the need to attempt to troll me personally on HN like this. Last time you did, HN flagged your reply. We do not have to agree, but we can be civil. For HN reader context, Paul (Bsky CTO) and I have discussed the protocol and permission system IRL and have different visions. My sense it that microblogging platforms like X/Bluesky condition people to discourse in ways online they would not in the physical world, though I have encountered online behaviors manifesting in the real world in recent years. ymmv, I have left them all completely and have a much better mental state since.
  - pfraze 3mo ago
    You replied to me, man
    - verdverm 3mo ago
      I did not author it as a personal attack though, apologies if it came through it that way.
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- crossroadsguy 3mo ago
  Wow. Irrespective of what the other commenter did to you outside of this thread (assuming you two have a history) your comments (this and others) here feel indeed like trolling and almost egging. Someone mentioned you are the CTO at BSKY, is this true? (Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49029317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49029317) Are you the CTO? If you are then this just feels like a red flag and kind of tells me as a user to look at this protocol/ecosystem (which truly is BSKY at the moment) with much caution.
blackqueeriroh 3mo ago
Really strange, considering there’s more debate, disagreement, and lack of conformity in atproto than I’ve ever seen in crypto. I think you might mean, “people who disagree with me intensely because they believe strongly in the way they view things.” Atproto is very, very far from a cult. It is a bunch of poasters, though, and nobody should be surprised when a social protocol has a bunch of, well, really social people in its leadership, and you shouldn’t expect them to act like senior leadership of Intel, IBM, or Nvidia. The fact Paul makes jokes on a social forum at or with people is a reminder that he’s a human. He’s smart, passionate, nerdy, talented, and sometimes extremely annoying, much like everyone else here, and I’m GLAD the leadership of the company and the protocol are as engaged with the community as they are. It’s a social protocol, for god’s sake. Remember when everyone would complain that the people who ran Twitter would never use it? I do, and just because Elon is down the K-hole and a posting menace doesn’t mean the criticism was incorrect.
- verdverm 3mo ago
  I hope you will agree that Paul's personal attacks towards me are unacceptable and unbecoming for the CTO of Bluesky. This is not the first time, I hope it is the last. (see his peer comment flagged by the community here)

pfraze 3mo ago

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verdverm 3mo ago
I'm not sure why you always feel the need to attempt to troll me personally on HN like this. Last time you did, HN flagged your reply. We do not have to agree, but we can be civil. For HN reader context, Paul (Bsky CTO) and I have discussed the protocol and permission system IRL and have different visions. My sense it that microblogging platforms like X/Bluesky condition people to discourse in ways online they would not in the physical world, though I have encountered online behaviors manifesting in the real world in recent years. ymmv, I have left them all completely and have a much better mental state since.
- pfraze 3mo ago
  You replied to me, man
  - verdverm 3mo ago
    I did not author it as a personal attack though, apologies if it came through it that way.
    - deleted 3mo ago
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crossroadsguy 3mo ago
Wow. Irrespective of what the other commenter did to you outside of this thread (assuming you two have a history) your comments (this and others) here feel indeed like trolling and almost egging. Someone mentioned you are the CTO at BSKY, is this true? (Here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49029317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49029317) Are you the CTO? If you are then this just feels like a red flag and kind of tells me as a user to look at this protocol/ecosystem (which truly is BSKY at the moment) with much caution.

blackqueeriroh 3mo ago

Really strange, considering there’s more debate, disagreement, and lack of conformity in atproto than I’ve ever seen in crypto. I think you might mean, “people who disagree with me intensely because they believe strongly in the way they view things.” Atproto is very, very far from a cult. It is a bunch of poasters, though, and nobody should be surprised when a social protocol has a bunch of, well, really social people in its leadership, and you shouldn’t expect them to act like senior leadership of Intel, IBM, or Nvidia. The fact Paul makes jokes on a social forum at or with people is a reminder that he’s a human. He’s smart, passionate, nerdy, talented, and sometimes extremely annoying, much like everyone else here, and I’m GLAD the leadership of the company and the protocol are as engaged with the community as they are. It’s a social protocol, for god’s sake. Remember when everyone would complain that the people who ran Twitter would never use it? I do, and just because Elon is down the K-hole and a posting menace doesn’t mean the criticism was incorrect.

verdverm 3mo ago
I hope you will agree that Paul's personal attacks towards me are unacceptable and unbecoming for the CTO of Bluesky. This is not the first time, I hope it is the last. (see his peer comment flagged by the community here)