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Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books. What about books and art where the author/artist does not authorise AI
by ctxc 2mo ago
Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books.
What about books and art where the author/artist does not authorise AI to train on it?
They do happily train on it, ignoring their "ToS".
This is just double standards, a slap on the wrist to not worsen the situation with authors imo.
You could also say the Chinese companies are doing the same - they _do_ pay for their Anthropic subscriptions after all.
- adrr 2mo agoPirating millions of dollars worth of books would land people in jail. Government went after Aaron Scwartz for "pirating" scientific journals.
- ctxc 2mo agoI didn't think about this parallel, but that's just so sad.
- bloppe 2mo agoAaron Schwartz was re-publishing the journals, which is the core concern or copyright and indeed where the word "copyright" comes from. Anthropic could get in a lot more trouble if their models are caught reproducing copyrighted work from their training set wholesale. I think the Aaron Schwartz case is incredibly vexing because he was obviously acting out of a sense of altruism without personal self-interest. I don't think he deserved the book getting thrown at him like that. But the whole copyright system, which people seem to think is simultaneously good and bad, kinda rests on not allowing those kinds of violations
- NicuCalcea 2mo agoI've linked this several times, but LLMs are capable of reproducing entire books. Researchers were able to extract books nearly verbatim: https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.02671 https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.02671
- WarmWash 2mo ago>Anthropic was asked to pay book authors because it trained on pirated downloaded books. No, it was asked to pay book authors because it pirated copies of books and stored them on their hard drives. The ruling had nothing to do with training.
- ctxc 2mo agoThanks - I didn't verify this personally, but still stand corrected. If training wasn't considered outside the law, this goes on to make the point about double standards for US vs Chinese model training methods.
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