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Under what authority could he block access?
by kennywinker 3mo ago
Under what authority could he block access?
- Catloafdev 3mo agoThe same authority he used to enact tariffs and a war.
- runtime_terror 3mo agoSo, illegally, got it
- gwerbin 3mo agoIt has the tacit consent of Congress, so it's mostly only illegal in the way it's carried out. Congress could make most of it legal right now, but they don't want to put their names on it. Some of it would probably be unconstitutional for Congress to authorize (ironically via the nondelegation clause which is now being repurposed to justify a thoroughly unconstituational unitary executive arrangement), but much of it would not be, so it's de jure illegal but de facto legal.
- watwut 3mo agoYou just described multiple different ways of being "illegal".
- nickthegreek 3mo agoIf you were to keep using a chinese model after said ban, you would need to be charged with a crime and be found guilty in a court of law for this to be true. What it would do is have an instant chilling effect across Corporate America, which is the goal.
- margalabargala 3mo agoAt a certain level legality is enforcement. If the enforcers of the rules decline to enforce them, you're better off acknowledging what is and dealing with it.
- khurs 3mo agoand take over Venezuela.
- holoduke 3mo agoIt's the rule based order america is the boss in. Essentially a mafia ruled country where rules are different for opponents.
- khurs 3mo ago"It's a big club and you aren't in it"
- allthetime 3mo agoExtra Judicial punishment and unwanted attention from powerful organizations is absolutely on the table for any larger startup/company who finds themselves in his radar
- dashundchen 3mo agoBecause the spineless cowards in Congress are somehow afraid of an 80 year old demented man nearing a 30% approval rating. Their inability to find a backbone helps them contort to whatever Trump babbles that day, even if privately they know something is idiotic or illegal. If you want a prime example, look at how Thom Tillis suddenly finds the ability to speak out once he lost his primary.
- danesparza 3mo ago[flagged]
- krapp 3mo ago> I wish all Americans were asking thoughtful questions like this. No notes. Why? We already know Trump often acts without legal authority, and just as often without consequence. Those thoughtful questions have been asked and answered many times, why do we need to ask them again?
- danesparza 3mo agoIt's the Americans that aren't asking these questions that worry me. It is a significant percentage of the population.
- 8note 3mo ago[flagged]
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- thewebguyd 3mo ago[dead]
- root_axis 3mo agoHave you been paying attention the last two years? With a few exceptions, he has unilateral authority.
- kennywinker 3mo agoI guess my question was, is this a threat to do something legal or something illegal
- hnfong 3mo agoWhat do you mean by illegal? It's very nuanced these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States On July 1, 2024, the Court ruled in a 6–3 decision that presidents have absolute immunity for acts committed as president within their core constitutional purview, at least presumptive immunity for official acts within the outer perimeter of their official responsibility, and no immunity for unofficial acts.[5][6][7][8] The court declined to rule on the scope of immunity for some acts alleged of Trump in his indictment, instead vacating the appellate decision and remanding the case to the district court for further proceedings.
- root_axis 3mo agoWhether or not it's illegal is typically determined a few months after the act in question. Since 2024, SCOTUS has sided with Trump about 90% of the time, so most likely it's legal. Still, even if it's later determined to be illegal, since the law presumes the president has legal immunity to all crimes committed in a presidential capacity, there's no legal risk, so the damage can be done long before the court makes it illegal. For example, Trump's global tarrifs were determined to be illegal a year after the fact, long after the damage had been done.
- vrganj 3mo agoThe "try and stop me" authority of a guy that has armed goons marching down city streets and brutalizing his opposition.
- throw1234567891 3mo agoITAR and suddenly half a world cannot touch it.
- kennywinker 3mo agoAfaik ITAR only covers export. Which would mean it can only be used to block export of US models, not importing chinese open weight models.