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Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgemen
by danpalmer 3mo ago
Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgements on projects like this just seems childish and unserious.
I'm also apparently banned from reading the article, despite having no previous usage of Codeberg or any history with the project, so I can't even see their reasoning.
- weakened_malloc 3mo agoThey also want to ban 'AI slop' - I'd love to see how they draw the lines on that one.
- avaer 3mo ago[flagged]
- hackinthebochs 3mo agoI'm also banned from the site for some reason despite never having been there before. Though I suspect my IP is on someone's naughty list for some reason seeing as I get far more captchas on the internet than I feel I should be getting.
- gh02t 3mo agohttps://dnschecker.org/ip-blacklist-checker.php https://dnschecker.org/ip-blacklist-checker.php is pretty handy for checking if you're on any of the major blocklists.
- mbac32768 3mo agoGitHub is the worst place to host your code. Except for all of the other places.
- hackermanai 3mo agoSo it seems.
- OtomotO 3mo agoMy self hosted gitforge disagrees.
- aveao 3mo agoDo you just care to provide code, or do you want people to be able to create issues, send PRs, make forks? Open source is social, and self hosting git forges isn't the answer for many projects (especially as spam is a big problem, and has been for years, even before LLMs).
- DaSHacka 3mo agoWell, GitHub seems unlikely to randomly ban your project if it fits within an entire category of services some admin arbitrarily decided they don't like. I know which one I'll be sticking with.
- LtWorf 3mo agoGithub might randomly ban your project if USA decides they don't like the colour of your passport.
- inigyou 3mo agoIt routinely bans projects for downloading media.
- aveao 3mo agoThis was voted on by the association members, with ~500 votes as far as I've seen. It's not the arbitrary politics of "some admin", rather the arbitrary politics of mob mentality.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago> Why? The impetus makes sense. Crypto is a hive of scams. It makes sense for honest people to want safeguards between their names and those folks. The problem is this seems to have been implemented with zero attention to detail.
- danpalmer 3mo agoIt's the lack of attention to detail that bugs me. It's just bad policy making. Writing good policies that encourage the right behaviour and discourage the wrong behaviour, policies that promote a good culture, are HARD. Saying "no crypto" has a wide range of impact, from pushing away crypto projects, to pushing away businesses who see it as an overreach, to pushing away free speech advocates.
- surgical_fire 3mo agoMaybe they want to push those people away with their policy. You know, business who see their ethics stance as an overreach, and free speech absolutists, maybe Codeberg is fine with those people not being around.
- lostmsu 3mo agoMaybe? They must be
- thrance 3mo agoWe've had enough time with crypto as a technology to see that it provides strictly negative value to the world. Banning all related projects wholesale is not unreasonable, in my book.
- burnt-resistor 3mo ago[flagged]
- danielheath 3mo agoEquating someone not wanting you on their website with tyranny sure is a take. You’re welcome to host it at your own venue. Or , I guess, to keep whining that you’re not being given free services by someone who dislikes your work.
- burnt-resistor 3mo ago[flagged]
- jjmarr 3mo agoIn the words of the person who announced the ban, when moderating a discussion on it 8 months prior:[1] > > Dear Codeberg, please push out and ban these political fighters. > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are a "coffee hosting service" that neutrally hosts code from a variety of perspectives. Their view is that hosting code is a political act and this is backed by the donations funding Codeberg's operation. [1] https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2184#issuecomment-7905679 https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2184#issuecom...
- Forgeties79 3mo agoHonestly I respect it
- gruez 3mo ago[flagged]
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- jrflowers 3mo agoPluralism is when strangers are forced to host my code for free. The idea of somebody else putting their time and money into something and then not giving it to me is philosophically worrisome
- wasmitnetzen 3mo agoI can ask you the same. Why don't you accept their politic stance?
- esseph 3mo agoWhat happened for standing up for something you believe in
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- vitalyan8184 3mo ago[flagged]
- lopatin 3mo agoI guess that brings up the question of why do people use Codeberg in the first place. From what I understand, it's a decision based on values right rather than cost, functionality, or convenience. Well here you go, more values, enjoy!
- matheusmoreira 3mo agoI used it for a while because I write free software and Codeberg was aligned with that. I went back to GitHub because I couldn't get their CIs to work. Now that they banned "heavy LLM usage" I won't be going back there I guess.
- TZubiri 3mo agoWhat's a coffee hosting service?
- inigyou 3mo ago"Banning abuse is fine" Reddit bans abuse (defined as not uploading an ID photo), is that fine?