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The fear is that the SVGmaxxing is limited to "X doing Y". If such 'template maxxing' exists, it will break for other templates, e.g. "X not doing Y", "X and Y
by OutOfHere 3mo ago
The fear is that the SVGmaxxing is limited to "X doing Y". If such 'template maxxing' exists, it will break for other templates, e.g. "X not doing Y", "X and Y doing Z", "X doing Y doing Z", etc.
- zarzavat 3mo agoIf a model can improve at drawing "X doing Y" and that prompt wasn't in the training set then it means it has improved its internal mapping from text-to-spatial-to-text.
- OutOfHere 3mo agoThe improvement would be limited to the template "X doing Y". It would not be a general improvement unless hundreds or thousands of diverse templates were used.
- nl 3mo agoI use LLMs for 3D CAD design in OpenSCAD. There seems to be a very strong correlation between models that are good at SVG and models that are good at 3D CAD. Anecdote I know, but there does seem to be generalization going on here.
- somenameforme 3mo agoWhich models have you found good for working with 3d stuff?
- nl 3mo agoChatGPT 5.5 and Sol 5.6, Fable are good. I haven't really tested Opus 4.8, but 4.7 wasn't nearly as good as ChatGPT 5.5.
- somenameforme 3mo agoInteresting! The reason I asked is I've had poor results with Fable and 3d stuff. Its spatial awareness seems poor - doing things like rotating left and then right back, and then pitching nonsensically, just to try to capture a segment of a scene for a verification pass. And its placement often results in clipping, misrotations, and so on. It could well be that the exact domain matters more than the bigger picture concepts, like 3d. One of the ever fewer reminders that this tech is still just fundamentally a token prediction algorithm.
- 21asdffdsa12 3mo agoThe failure seems to be that a scene is inherently hierarchical with a graph with offset, rotation, scale and a name - and this seems to be transferred back poorely fro example during 3d generation.
- nl 3mo agoThat's interesting. I only did a couple of attempts with Fable and it seemed fine. Mostly I have been using GPT 5.5 and now 5.6 That is notable because I do almost exclusively use Claude for coding.