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For those like me wondering if he's also the creator of the Dvorak keyboard, no but close! > He is a nephew of sociologist August Dvorak, creator of the Dvorak
by giancarlostoro 3mo ago
For those like me wondering if he's also the creator of the Dvorak keyboard, no but close!
> He is a nephew of sociologist August Dvorak, creator of the Dvorak keyboard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_keyboard_layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_keyboard_layout
- SirFatty 3mo agoHe was the creator of Cranky Geeks. One of the first podcasts I listened to.
- jmspring 3mo ago[flagged]
- rbanffy 3mo agoHe was often wrong.
- imdsm 3mo agoHow wonderful to be human, and to be able to have your own political views and opinions such that you could be, subjectively, wrong. We can all only hope to one day also have our own opinions and proudly be wrong.
- duzer65657 3mo agoso this cuts both ways. You voluntarily publish your "beliefs" widely and publicly, be prepared to be called on it. Most of us choose not to do this, but if you want to exert influence you are held inviting criticism.
- twoodfin 3mo agoYou’ll note that the comment above was not “criticism” or argument of any meaningful kind. It simply flagged that he was on the “wrong team”.
- rbanffy 3mo agoThere's nothing wrong in being wrong. I'm often wrong, and I'm very happy when I learn something and cease to be wrong about that. If you take the political views angle, up to 2005 or so, I was very much for small State and liberal economics, but, over the years, I observed the results of assistance programs for vulnerable populations, industrial policies that developed entire regions, and other measures that ensured more opportunities for upwards social mobility, especially for populations that were often excluded from that. Then, in 2015, a coup came, that ousted a left-wing president and demolished most of those policies. Then a far-right president finished demolishing what was left. At this point, I am very left-leaning because of this. I have seen what injustices do, and how we can eliminate them - and it's not even hard to do so. If even a relatively poor country such as Brazil can do that, anyone can.
- DonHopkins 3mo ago>There's nothing wrong in being wrong. That is highly dependent on what you're wrong about, and if you change your beliefs based on evidence, and how many people you try to influence to believe your wrong beliefs.
- rbanffy 3mo agoThere's nothing wrong about being wrong, unless you try to force others to live under your own wrong assumptions. He didn't do that.
- Danox 3mo agoRIP he was highly skeptical, not necessarily open to the long range view.
- rbanffy 3mo agoWhat made him useful for a set of things made him wrong for another. That's kind of being human - you don't judge by evidence alone, but also on your previous experiences and biases.
- ajmurmann 3mo agoI used to listen to No Agenda from episode 1 on. It literally was just John and Adam recording their regular phone calls, discussing dinners they had together, etc. Over time it became more and more of what I'd describe as a conspiracy podcast. No Agenda, John and Adam will forever have a special place in my heart regardless of the show eventually putting me off. Adam was what first brought my attention to Second Life where I ended up randomly meeting my now wife. We ended up listening to early No Agenda during long car rides. During one of the episodes John and Adam talked about their visit to Chez Spencer near our home in SF. We checked it out and loved it and later had our wedding rehearsal dinner there. Thank you, John!
- lorreyfum 3mo agoCentrist libertarian. Absolutely fun and amazing insight.
- shmoe 3mo agoMeh, none of that includes the conspiracy bullshit. I liked Jon, but I didn't like where he went in the last decade or so.
- thisisnico 3mo agoThis is really sad. I used to listen to Cranky Geeks religiously when I was younger. I was always excited about a new episode. I still remember many of them. I remember them talking about web 2.0 and what that means, talking about twitter, and tweeting. A lot of good information and laughs over the years. He will be in my memories.
- echelon 3mo agoThis is sad. I grew up watching his show on Tech TV and reading his columns in PC Magazine. He used to butt heads with Leo Laporte and it was great: https://youtu.be/C96YG7qzN80?t=142 https://youtu.be/C96YG7qzN80?t=142
- barney54 3mo agoI enjoyed John and Leo butting heads. I agree that it was great. It's a bummer they haven't done that for a long time.
- lorreyfum 3mo agoIt was great until Leo went off the deep end and lost 99% of his audience.
- boyter 3mo agoWhen Leo cut off Dvroak and CJal I turned out. You really do need that sort of personality for people to bounce off otherwise its less entertaining.
- lizardking 3mo agoIs CJal here supposed to be JCal by chance? I feel like that was close to 15 years ago, but I'm in the same boat. I used to listen to almost every show Twit put out, which was quite a bit.
- echelon 3mo agoI didn't stick around that long to see what became of it. I see different people saying different things about Leo and John. What happened?
- etempleton 3mo agoI think their butting heads eventually got on both of their nerves. John would derail the show just to get under Leo’s skin. And Leo became increasingly ridged with the show structure. The show was losing popularity and I think some guests said they didn’t like John because he was cranky and his politics, but the real issue was probably that the studio was no longer as convenient for people to get to. At the same time they both became increasingly politically polarized. John C Davorak became a full right wing conspiracy theorist. Leo increasingly embraced the left wing ideology of the moment.
- moffkalast 3mo agoAugust Dvorak's father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate.
- nosrepa 3mo agoI like that his Wikipedia page really sells that he was a Kentucky Colonel. That was one of the easier titles I've gotten.
- samplatt 3mo agoHow did you get it? ... How many titles do you have?! I know there's people like Sir David Attenborough who have three alphabets worth of letters after their name, but I hadn't considered the idea of gaming the system to get superfluous titles.
- appstorelottery 3mo agoHey rosrepa... I want to go down your rabbit hole & collect some titles... would you be kind enough to recommend some easy ones to start with?
- voidUpdate 3mo agoThe Universal Life Church has an online form to get ordained as a minister, that's an easy one to get
- tosti 3mo agoHurricane Electric has dead simple IPv6 certification
- DonHopkins 3mo agoThe Alonzo Church of the Eval Genius has a self evaluation program sponsored by the Y Combinator. I anonymously passed myself to myself -- until a fixed point!
- prvc 3mo agoThere does not seem to be a documented close lineal connection between August Dvorak and composer Antonín Dvořák, although it would be reasonable to suppose some relation exists.
- gasgdsadgfa 3mo agoThere's also no documented close lineal connection between John C. Dvorak and August Dvorak, any more than his birthplace being Los Angeles. Both of which are blindly-repeated, unsourced (and untrue) Wikipedia inventions.
- jl6 3mo agoWikipedia sources the claim to an article by Jerry Pournelle in BYTE magazine, from 1985.
- qingcharles 3mo agoHere's the snippet in question from the magazine: https://imgur.com/a/8SVQGnj https://imgur.com/a/8SVQGnj
- gasgdsadgfa 3mo agoWikipedia and Pournelle are wrong, here's John Charles Dvorak himself on November 27, 1988: https://ibb.co/x8RJvWyX https://ibb.co/x8RJvWyX "I'm told there is a relationship, but I can't prove it." John knows who his uncles are. His father is Walter Charles Dvorak born in Minneapolis to John Steve Dvorak (also born in Minneapolis). August Dvorak and all of his siblings (none of them Walter) were all born in McLeod County to IMMIGRANT Joseph Dvorak. If there's a connection it goes back to Bohemia.
- jl6 3mo agoIs that from the San Francisco Examiner? Do you have sources for the family information you mention?
- dyauspitr 3mo agoInteresting, that’s the only way I thought I knew this man.
- darkwater 3mo ago> of the Dvorak keyboard Ok, I'm going to shame myself in public for this but, I always thought they were "DVORAK keyboards" and they were called this way just like the "AZERTY keyboards", that is, the first 6 letters of the first row were "DVORAK".
- teekert 3mo agoUhm TIL…
- tmtvl 3mo agoThere's no shame in not knowing something or inferring wrong conclusions from facts you do know. From left to right the first 6 keys of the top row are: ',.pyf Which isn't as catchy as Dvorak.
- user_7832 3mo agoUnfortunately python scripts turn out to be not as vulnerable to character escaping exploits. Character escape, in this context, of course, refers to the keys themselves flying out of the keyboard, this being a hardware product and all.
- DonHopkins 3mo agoWait, you mean the Dvorak keyboard isn't named after the order of its letters like Querty??! How are you supposed to remember it then? Or is there also a keyboard inventor named Querty?
- KellyCriterion 3mo agoIts Qwerty/z, not Querty :-)
- KellyCriterion 3mo agoDid you ever meet someone in the real world using the Dvorak ayout?