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Depends on your financial situation, but $10 is nothing these days. That's the price of a bougie coffee, half the price of going out to eat, half the price of a
by 201984 2mo ago
Depends on your financial situation, but $10 is nothing these days. That's the price of a bougie coffee, half the price of going out to eat, half the price of a movie ticket, or less than 2 gallons of gas in some states. For most people here, it's probably 20min of labor after taxes or less, for something you use constantly. You pay several times more, possibly 10x more, for the internet you use Kagi on. Really not a bad deal from that perspective.
- Gud 2mo agoAll of your examples are things many people are no longer doing because they can't afford them.
- 201984 2mo agoPeople are no longer buying internet to use google, nor buying gas for cars? The others I understand, I'm cutting back on them too.
- Gud 2mo agoYes, people are driving less when gas prices are high.
- jubilanti 2mo agoEven in the US, which is already very HCoL, I think you seriously underestimate the number of households who've either never had who have cut household Internet. Lots of households where everyone's Internet access is on smartphones via MNVO mobile carriers, typically on $10-$20/mo/line plans with 5-25GB/mo/line.
- konart 2mo ago>nor buying gas for cars In many countries car is not something essential thanks to public transport. And some people [who own a car] actually stop using one when prices for gas go over the bar unless they absolutely have to.
- protimewaster 2mo ago> In many countries car is not something essential thanks to public transport. Is that true in many entire countries? It seems like most of the countries I've visited, there are usually places within the country where transit isn't very good, and if you point at a map and say "I want to visit this part of the county" the answer is "You should rent a car, because there's no good transit connection there." I absolutely believe this to be true in many cities, though.
- FabHK 2mo agoWell, sure, and so you rarely or never go there. Most people I know don't have a car. Doesn't mean there aren't cars in the country.
- j1elo 2mo agoSo you live in one of the most expensive countries in the planet I guess, which forced you to get used to those absurdly high prices? In my corner of the first-world, I'm paying: * €6/mo mobile carrier with unlimited calls and what used to be 8 GB of data, but got raised (permanently without extra cost, across all customers) to 15 GB on last June. Paying a bit more could get you an "unlimited" plan. * €10/mo for 500 Mbps fiber optic home internet, could be 750 for €15 but really I don't see the need for more speed. (How do you pay "10x more [than $10]" for Internet? That's crazy) * Cinema is "expensive" at €12, while a premium IMAX costs around €16 (I guess, haven't gone in a while) * Curiously enough, eating out does cost €20 per person for a "nothing special" restaurant meal; around €30 per person starts getting very nice.
- econ 2mo agoThis is such a wonderful website https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/prices_by_country.jsp https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/prices_by_country.jsp This is the broadband page. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/prices_by_country.jsp?displayCurrency=USD&itemId=33 https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/prices_by_country.jsp?...
- darkamaul 2mo agoThanks for sharing this one, that’s truly a gem that I had no idea existed
- econ 2mo agoThis one is also great https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street Made by Hans Rosling (among others) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w
- nixgeek 2mo agoI think I’m on the upper end of what’s normal in U.S. but also not super abnormal either — 1. Four lines on Google Fi is about $220 per month for “Unlimited”. 2. Comcast is $95 per month for 1Gbps. 3. A regular cinema ticket is $22.83 to the nearest movie theater and that isnt a "premium" thing like IMAX.
- ycombinator_acc 2mo agoPeople not from North America and Western Europe exist.
- KetoManx64 2mo agoYeah but you make up a small percentage of sales for US tech companies comparatively.
- crossroadsguy 2mo agoThese people either don't understand what living in a "world" means or are just too stuck into "but rest of you don't pay" that it will be hard for them grasp anything beyond what's written in stone on those grey surfaces for them. What they also don't understand that a small fraction of paying customers in some of such countries might or will outspend entire country's regular spending in the "paying world". They also don't understand that to achieve that unlike physical goods these companies don't have to open agencies, distributors, warehouses, retail chains etc to "sell". PS. Some of these fine people are still living in 1940s and 50s and maybe even the 70s (read Davos etc), or have lenses from that time that they are fitting in their worldview glasses.
- carlosjobim 2mo agoHave you met those people? A lot of them have ten dollars.
- ycombinator_acc 2mo agoWe’re talking median annual income of $10,000. I could forgive someone getting paid that not wanting to spend that $10 on an internet search engine instead of food.
- carlosjobim 2mo agoOkay, but why single out Kagi? Everything is too expensive if you don't have money. Should all companies in the world stop making their products, except energy, food, and shelter? And $10 is about 1% of your monthly income in your example numbers, meaning it's perfectly fine also for somebody making $10 000 per year.
- driverdan 2mo agoIt's nothing until you have to buy a $10/m subscription for every basic thing you do, then it adds up.
- protimewaster 2mo agoThat's what gets me too. I've been tasked previously to help a young relative with budgeting, and there were so many "It's only $x a month!" items we found that it was ridiculous. It's pushed me in the other direction, away from subscriptions. For most things, if I see that it's being sold as a subscription, I just walk away. Obviously this doesn't work for internet service, etc., but it's possible to avoid for most things.
- Pavilion2095 2mo ago$10 is nothing when it's $10, but everything is a $10 subscription these days - and you end up spending a lot of money.