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Are the Chinese models actually catching up or are they just distilling the frontiers? If it's all just distilling then they'll always be behind.
by datakan 3mo ago
Are the Chinese models actually catching up or are they just distilling the frontiers? If it's all just distilling then they'll always be behind.
- amazingamazing 3mo agoWho told you they were distilling? Why might they say this? Think. It’s like complaining that the top student only does well by going to office hours instead of mindlessly reading textbooks.
- literallyroy 3mo agoIs this a better analogy? The top student giving paid lectures about his classes, and another student skipping class and instead studying those lectures to end up with the second highest grade? Maybe it could be improved with the other student not even going to the same school?
- amazingamazing 3mo agoIn your example the problem is what exactly?
- shimman 3mo agoThey don't like competition when they have to actually compete.
- AndrewKemendo 3mo agoIn capitalist economics they call this the “free rider problem”
- baq 3mo agothey're all introducing themselves as claude for one, there are more quantitive and qualitative arguments elsewhere
- amazingamazing 3mo agoAll chinese models are introducing themselves as claude? Why make claims trivially disproven?
- baq 3mo agoyou're technically correct and missing the point
- dormento 3mo agoTo be fair, anthropic models, when asked in chinese, also used to introduce themselves as deepseek sometimes. This is a limitation of the technology.
- rdtsc 3mo agoWell that and also benchmaxxing.
- f6v 3mo agoThere's no reason they can't build their own models from the first principles. They have the hardware, energy, and enough CS scientists.
- chicken-stew 3mo agoI do wonder how they source their bulk literary data. Do they have a google books, an archive.org or an anna’s archive for chinese content? What’s the Asian equivalent to Elsevier? Is there (strong) copyright on the corporate level?