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Why are you trying to divert the topic? You don't think the genocide in Ukraine has enough scale of a tragedy, with more than 2 million casualties since 2022?

Why are you trying to divert the topic? You don't think the genocide in Ukraine has enough scale of a tragedy, with more than 2 million casualties since 2022? Isn't this enough to flag a product? The Ukrainians posed no threat to anyone, they didn't have a nuclear program, in fact they surrendered the third largest nuclear stockpile and one of the signatures of the memorandum is trying to delete Ukraine. Why are you trying to dilute this event which is directly related to the topic? Is it to try to normalize the crime of genocide in Ukraine?

inigyou 2mo ago
Because your argument suffers the fallacy of proving too much. You're trying to say that all Russian technology must be boycotted because it does a war, but your argument also says American technology must be boycotted, Chinese technology must be boycotted and European technology must be boycotted. No transistors for anyone who subscribes to your argument! https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5eMM3Wp3hbCuKKPE/proving-too-much https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5eMM3Wp3hbCuKKPE/proving-to...
- libertine 2mo ago
  No, it's simpler than that - there's an ongoing genocide in Ukraine, a country that was at peace and posed threat to no one. The guys that surrendered their nukes in exchange for security, right? What I'm saying is that anything that helps prolong this war should be avoided. It's not a fallacy, it's actually common sense. You're again trying to dilute the genocide by bringing USA, China, etc. So why are you trying to normalize one event, by diluting it among other events that have no relationship whatsoever with it?
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Why is the Ukraine war the only war that matters? Shouldn't we also stop helping prolong the Iran war? I'm not diluting one event - I'm saying we need to care about all wars.
    - libertine 2mo ago
      It matters within the context of this comment thread about a company using assets from specific state commiting genocide that had caused more than 2 million casualties in 4 years. We're talking about cities razed to the ground, more than a thousand medical facilities destroyed, and of course the systematic and deliberate attempt destruction of a culture - just because they wanted to be a sovereign democracy.
      - inigyou 2mo ago
        I don't know if you wrote this comment about the US or Russia, which proves my point.
    - x______________ 2mo ago
      >Why is the Ukraine war the only war that matters? Shouldn't we also stop helping prolong the Iran war? I'm not diluting one event - I'm saying we need to care about all wars. Nicely stated.
  - x______________ 2mo ago
    > No, it's simpler than that - there's an ongoing genocide in Ukraine, a country that was at peace and posed threat to no one. Cherry picking the facts or blinded by your own beliefs? There was conflict for years prior to the announcement of Russia's involvement on the world stage[0]. 0 https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-c...

inigyou 2mo ago

Because your argument suffers the fallacy of proving too much. You're trying to say that all Russian technology must be boycotted because it does a war, but your argument also says American technology must be boycotted, Chinese technology must be boycotted and European technology must be boycotted. No transistors for anyone who subscribes to your argument! https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5eMM3Wp3hbCuKKPE/proving-too-much https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G5eMM3Wp3hbCuKKPE/proving-to...

libertine 2mo ago
No, it's simpler than that - there's an ongoing genocide in Ukraine, a country that was at peace and posed threat to no one. The guys that surrendered their nukes in exchange for security, right? What I'm saying is that anything that helps prolong this war should be avoided. It's not a fallacy, it's actually common sense. You're again trying to dilute the genocide by bringing USA, China, etc. So why are you trying to normalize one event, by diluting it among other events that have no relationship whatsoever with it?
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Why is the Ukraine war the only war that matters? Shouldn't we also stop helping prolong the Iran war? I'm not diluting one event - I'm saying we need to care about all wars.
  - libertine 2mo ago
    It matters within the context of this comment thread about a company using assets from specific state commiting genocide that had caused more than 2 million casualties in 4 years. We're talking about cities razed to the ground, more than a thousand medical facilities destroyed, and of course the systematic and deliberate attempt destruction of a culture - just because they wanted to be a sovereign democracy.
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      I don't know if you wrote this comment about the US or Russia, which proves my point.
  - x______________ 2mo ago
    >Why is the Ukraine war the only war that matters? Shouldn't we also stop helping prolong the Iran war? I'm not diluting one event - I'm saying we need to care about all wars. Nicely stated.
- x______________ 2mo ago
  > No, it's simpler than that - there's an ongoing genocide in Ukraine, a country that was at peace and posed threat to no one. Cherry picking the facts or blinded by your own beliefs? There was conflict for years prior to the announcement of Russia's involvement on the world stage[0]. 0 https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-c...