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>The other story covers a founder who has Claude review her first dates and tell her whether she was engaging and empathetic enough, thanks to recording every s

>The other story covers a founder who has Claude review her first dates and tell her whether she was engaging and empathetic enough, thanks to recording every single one of them. Two people meet and afterwards, rather than talk to the other person or trust her own judgment, one of them sits alone with a machine and asks how well she performed. Holy insanity

kubb 4mo ago
Dating in the Silicon Valley must be hell.
- amarcheschi 4mo ago
  The sheer thought of asking "how I performed" in one of the most subjective fields is the most ai-esque thing I read in a while
  - fragmede 4mo ago
    Yes. There were never any performative parts to dating prior to the release of ChatGPT in November, 2022.
    - amarcheschi 4mo ago
      I didn't say it wasn't performative before
  - pas 4mo ago
    sure, and there are obvious pitfalls, but IMHO it's much better than going to a 100+ dates and not reflecting on what went wrong/well after any of them. (tangentially related recommended reading https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ )
- infecto 4mo ago
  Nothing new. It was not great 10+ years ago. I always found NYC to be a much more fun city in that regard. The Bay Area folks always had nothing better to talk about except work.
  - fragmede 4mo ago
    And burning man.
- pas 4mo ago
  https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-dating-men-in-the-bay https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-dating-men-in-t...
  - kubb 4mo ago
    Wow what a screed. Comfort-seeking through analysis, categorization, and grand theory of society based on personal experience. It could be more valuable and interesting to just provide dating anecdotes. I’m not sure there’s value in presenting that experience as a half-digested diagnosis about what’s wrong. Especially when it comes with so many hidden assumptions about how things have to be and the inevitable projections of their own experiences and expectations onto the lives of others. Why would you just link it without a comment?
    - joenot443 4mo ago
      > Why would you just link it without a comment? I would imagine they linked it because it's a great read and they figured others would be interested. ACX is extremely well known around here, I'm surprised you're unfamiliar. Scott runs creative writing contests for his readers, this was one of the finalists. I think you're reading far more seriously into a writing exercise than necessary, which I'd imagine is why you were left bothered by it.
      - kubb 4mo ago
        I see, so it's not meant to be taken seriously. Missed that context, thanks! I don't know Scott, I'm sure he's a great guy.
datakan 4mo ago
I weep for the future
- pas 4mo ago
  natural selection rather quickly fixes this, don't worry
  - pixl97 4mo ago
    Natural selection in humans is a very long horizon problem.
    - moritzwarhier 4mo ago
      It also doesn't care about what humans feel to be desirable. Sure, humans like being healthy and strong and sociable. But natural selection doesn't care about that either, per se. That's just a small slice of what natural selection can result in.
markovs_gun 4mo ago
When you raise kids in a society that scruitinizes and measures every aspect of their existence against all ither kids, and then send those kids to a workforce where every aspect of their performance and personality are scruitinized and analyzed to attempt to rank them against their peers, why wouldn't said kids seek out such "objective" ranking in their personal lives? We have designed society to produce people neurotically obsessed with ranking and comparison in school, work, and social media, and yet we're surprised when people start being neurotically obsessed with ranking in their performance in dating? This is a problem we created.
- weatherlite 4mo ago
  > We have designed society to produce people neurotically obsessed with ranking and comparison in school, work, and social media Comparing ourselves to others is probably built into our DNA. Most primates also have a social hierarchy. A human who didn't somewhat obsessively socially compare himself to others and/or self reflect on his behavior might have been thrown out of the tribe because he would never self correct.
  - tonyedgecombe 4mo ago
    We didn't have to turn the dial up to eleven though.
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microtonal 4mo ago
It's hard to say how common that is though. We can't really extrapolate from one example. I hope that person finds more confidence and especially starts having fun, because that's what dating can be.
- Balgair 4mo ago
  I can see doing this for job interviews, and even then only for certain types of jobs too. But yeah, if I learned that a potential match did this to me, well, I think that would change a lot in my evaluation of that person as a partner.

kubb 4mo ago

Dating in the Silicon Valley must be hell.

amarcheschi 4mo ago
The sheer thought of asking "how I performed" in one of the most subjective fields is the most ai-esque thing I read in a while
- fragmede 4mo ago
  Yes. There were never any performative parts to dating prior to the release of ChatGPT in November, 2022.
  - amarcheschi 4mo ago
    I didn't say it wasn't performative before
- pas 4mo ago
  sure, and there are obvious pitfalls, but IMHO it's much better than going to a 100+ dates and not reflecting on what went wrong/well after any of them. (tangentially related recommended reading https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ )
infecto 4mo ago
Nothing new. It was not great 10+ years ago. I always found NYC to be a much more fun city in that regard. The Bay Area folks always had nothing better to talk about except work.
- fragmede 4mo ago
  And burning man.
pas 4mo ago
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-dating-men-in-the-bay https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-dating-men-in-t...
- kubb 4mo ago
  Wow what a screed. Comfort-seeking through analysis, categorization, and grand theory of society based on personal experience. It could be more valuable and interesting to just provide dating anecdotes. I’m not sure there’s value in presenting that experience as a half-digested diagnosis about what’s wrong. Especially when it comes with so many hidden assumptions about how things have to be and the inevitable projections of their own experiences and expectations onto the lives of others. Why would you just link it without a comment?
  - joenot443 4mo ago
    > Why would you just link it without a comment? I would imagine they linked it because it's a great read and they figured others would be interested. ACX is extremely well known around here, I'm surprised you're unfamiliar. Scott runs creative writing contests for his readers, this was one of the finalists. I think you're reading far more seriously into a writing exercise than necessary, which I'd imagine is why you were left bothered by it.
    - kubb 4mo ago
      I see, so it's not meant to be taken seriously. Missed that context, thanks! I don't know Scott, I'm sure he's a great guy.

datakan 4mo ago

I weep for the future

pas 4mo ago
natural selection rather quickly fixes this, don't worry
- pixl97 4mo ago
  Natural selection in humans is a very long horizon problem.
  - moritzwarhier 4mo ago
    It also doesn't care about what humans feel to be desirable. Sure, humans like being healthy and strong and sociable. But natural selection doesn't care about that either, per se. That's just a small slice of what natural selection can result in.

markovs_gun 4mo ago

When you raise kids in a society that scruitinizes and measures every aspect of their existence against all ither kids, and then send those kids to a workforce where every aspect of their performance and personality are scruitinized and analyzed to attempt to rank them against their peers, why wouldn't said kids seek out such "objective" ranking in their personal lives? We have designed society to produce people neurotically obsessed with ranking and comparison in school, work, and social media, and yet we're surprised when people start being neurotically obsessed with ranking in their performance in dating? This is a problem we created.

weatherlite 4mo ago
> We have designed society to produce people neurotically obsessed with ranking and comparison in school, work, and social media Comparing ourselves to others is probably built into our DNA. Most primates also have a social hierarchy. A human who didn't somewhat obsessively socially compare himself to others and/or self reflect on his behavior might have been thrown out of the tribe because he would never self correct.
- tonyedgecombe 4mo ago
  We didn't have to turn the dial up to eleven though.

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microtonal 4mo ago

It's hard to say how common that is though. We can't really extrapolate from one example. I hope that person finds more confidence and especially starts having fun, because that's what dating can be.

Balgair 4mo ago
I can see doing this for job interviews, and even then only for certain types of jobs too. But yeah, if I learned that a potential match did this to me, well, I think that would change a lot in my evaluation of that person as a partner.