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I mean.. it also sends the message that you can ignore the law if you're rich. $1.5B is like a single failed training run for Anthropic. They burn that in a lon

I mean.. it also sends the message that you can ignore the law if you're rich. $1.5B is like a single failed training run for Anthropic. They burn that in a long weekend because somebody forgot to abort a hyper parameter search. Obviously exaggerating.. but not by much.

singingtoday 3mo ago
I mean, you can mostly. That's apparent all over. Money buys freedom.
dyauspitr 3mo ago
It’s like you can ignore the law if you have a great idea that works out. Lots of people have ended up doing it. Uber did it for a long time. Musk, did it with the sale of Tesla cars. There are a bunch of examples from outside of the US as well.
- sakjur 3mo ago
  That sounds like an oligarchy. Especially if "great" is measured in dollars rather than public good.
  - dyauspitr 3mo ago
    In most cases it’s for the public good (even if a lot of the public has to be taken kicking and screaming), atleast the examples I listed above are. Uber and Tesla both revolutionized entire industries. So did Anthropic.
    - danny_codes 3mo ago
      Is it? Uber has been a net loss for society. It increased overall VMT, especially in urban areas, and drove riders away from transit. On the whole this is both bad for cities and bad for city dwellers. We have more traffic and less transit, precisely the opposite of what we should be aiming for. If corporations can selectively ignore whatever laws they don't like, we won't have a functioning society anymore. Our society is predicated on equality under the law. If general trust in that principle breaks down I don't see how democracy survives.
      - dyauspitr 2mo ago
        Transit is a win only is large cities. Everywhere else, where most people in the US live (only 6% of the US population lives in dense, walkable urban environments), public transit is not a viable option. Uber is a huge win. Before Uber everyone that lived in a suburb or in a rural and semi rural area (~94% of the population)had to call an expensive limo that would cost hundreds of dollars to get anywhere if you didn’t have a car. That’s a thing of the past now.

singingtoday 3mo ago

I mean, you can mostly. That's apparent all over. Money buys freedom.

dyauspitr 3mo ago

It’s like you can ignore the law if you have a great idea that works out. Lots of people have ended up doing it. Uber did it for a long time. Musk, did it with the sale of Tesla cars. There are a bunch of examples from outside of the US as well.

sakjur 3mo ago
That sounds like an oligarchy. Especially if "great" is measured in dollars rather than public good.
- dyauspitr 3mo ago
  In most cases it’s for the public good (even if a lot of the public has to be taken kicking and screaming), atleast the examples I listed above are. Uber and Tesla both revolutionized entire industries. So did Anthropic.
  - danny_codes 3mo ago
    Is it? Uber has been a net loss for society. It increased overall VMT, especially in urban areas, and drove riders away from transit. On the whole this is both bad for cities and bad for city dwellers. We have more traffic and less transit, precisely the opposite of what we should be aiming for. If corporations can selectively ignore whatever laws they don't like, we won't have a functioning society anymore. Our society is predicated on equality under the law. If general trust in that principle breaks down I don't see how democracy survives.
    - dyauspitr 2mo ago
      Transit is a win only is large cities. Everywhere else, where most people in the US live (only 6% of the US population lives in dense, walkable urban environments), public transit is not a viable option. Uber is a huge win. Before Uber everyone that lived in a suburb or in a rural and semi rural area (~94% of the population)had to call an expensive limo that would cost hundreds of dollars to get anywhere if you didn’t have a car. That’s a thing of the past now.