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Stop buying LG TVs.
by CivBase 3mo ago
Stop buying LG TVs.
- smcleod 3mo agoUnfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.
- jedberg 3mo agoI haven’t looked recently but last I checked Samsung made the best panels. Has that changed recently?
- smcleod 3mo agoTheir panels are often over-saturated with that fake HDR like look, similar to their phones.
- ahartmetz 3mo agoMost screens come with "showroom settings" out of the box. You need to configure them to something more neutral once and then it's fine.
- smcleod 3mo agoI'm aware of that setting, but this is the Samsung baseline. The panels they export for OEMs / other manufacturers don't seem to have the same hyper saturation. Even just standing next to someone using a Samsung phone or tablet you can often spot it straight away we know you what to look for.
- ahartmetz 3mo agoEven phones have screen settings these days (much less detailed than monitors). On my Motorola phone w/ OLED screen, I turned off "vibrant colors" or something like that. Maybe the people you saw didn't bother or liked it. Maybe there is something that can't be turned off, who knows. I only have semi-regular experience with an older (and non OLED) Samsung tablet which seems fine.
- PowerElectronix 3mo agoThat goes away if you set them in filmaker mode.
- TeMPOraL 3mo agoOver saturated HDR is a good default in times when all TV shows only use various shades of pitch black.
- nvme0n1p1 3mo agoSamsung scored highest on https://www.rtings.com/ https://www.rtings.com/ for my criteria, and I'm happy with the purchase. I didn't connect it to the network, of course. (I had to stop my handyman from connecting it and he seemed to think I was crazy for insisting.)
- ahartmetz 3mo ago"I work in software. I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate..."
- tosti 3mo agoEddy currents causing pressurized air deflecting cosmic rays striking drive platters flipping bits...
- lostlogin 3mo agoI installed a Pihole and set an edge router to direct any port 53 traffic that wasn’t from the Pihole, to the Pihole. That made a Samsung behave a little better. But giving it no network access is better.
- MemoryHoleHQ 3mo ago[dead]
- dodslaser 3mo agoSamsung is good, except: - No Dolby Vision support, only HDR10+ - Issues with judder/micro stutter - History of nerfing TVs via OTA updates - HDMI ports randomly failing - Bad HDMI-CEC implementation - Selling completely different panel generations under the exact same model names.
- mDyJzDPmBdG 3mo agoAlso: Samsung thinks "your" TV is perfect place for them to display their ads.
- PowerElectronix 3mo agoNo, qd-oled is still best, LG is closing the gap with tandem oled but is still the second best panel tech.
- mlrtime 3mo agoSamsung is worse, their OS is horrendous. LG allows local control fairly well and has Home Assistant support. Samsung is a complete mess, now charging $5/month to use smarthings with no local control. I'll never buy Samsung.
- mey 3mo agoHow important is "the best" OLED vs the second best or 100th best OLED? I am personally ok not buying the bleeding edge to not get malware onto my OS.
- theplumber 3mo agoIf you care about malware you do not plug it into the internet. I think windows computers are pretty mallwareish as well or at least spyware. People who buy Oled buy them because they care about PQ.
- notatoad 3mo agoreasonably important, if you're never connecting your lg tv to any network, and just connecting it to an AppleTV or something and letting HDMI-CEC control it so you never even see their OS.
- StumpChunkman 3mo agoExactly this. And with an Apple TV 4K Ethernet, you've got a bonus Thread border router for smart home devices. I actually didn't even realize that initially, but was very pleased when I found IKEAs latest round of Matter over Thread devices paired nicely with it and my existing Home Assistant + Hue setup.
- eproxus 3mo agoAnd if you install Tailscale you can even use it as an exit node to surf from home when you're traveling.
- drnick1 3mo agoI would suggest a mini-PC running Linux and Plasma Bigscreen instead of an AppleTV if you want something 100% private and user-controlled.
- N19PEDL2 3mo agoDo you recommend any specific distro for this?
- cosmic_cheese 3mo agoI don’t ever use their “smart” functionality (that’s what my Apple TV is for) but I’ve never had any issues with the Google TV (Android) build that Sony ships. It doesn’t nag me about being kept offline, is reasonably fast, and doesn’t even show its home screen unless I specifically summon it, so it checks my boxes.
- pjmlp 3mo agoHave to agree, WebOS is much better than Android TV OS, with ads on the dashboard.
- Leonard_of_Q 3mo agoYou can replace the Android TV launcher with an alternative like Projectivy [1] to get rid of whatever nonsense the stock launcher tries to push. Add Flicky [2] to address F-Droid and you've got a nuisance-free Android TV. [1] https://github.com/spocky/miproja1 https://github.com/spocky/miproja1 [2] https://github.com/mlm-games/flicky https://github.com/mlm-games/flicky
- pjmlp 3mo agoThanks, however is kind of the problem, it shouldn't be a thing in first place.
- qlte 2mo agoI’m perfectly happy with the status quo where a subsidized $25 Onn 4K streamer from Walmart can easily be turned into a snappy, ad-free, LAN hosted Jellyfin box, with remappable remote buttons after <10min of “effort” to install (and remove) a handful of apps. I haven’t looked at the stock Google TV home screen on any of my devices in years.
- Gigachad 3mo agoAs long as you keep it off the internet. Otherwise it’s absolute loaded with adverts everywhere.
- Yizahi 3mo agoI thought webOS was pretty decent initially. But LG never provided even a single major update to my TV in a decade, so that just about cancels any possible benefits from the faster code. I'm using Chromecast for several years now, bypassing and ignoring webOS completely. But the initial idea was nice, all those years ago.
- smcleod 3mo agoReally? I've had many updates over the 7 years since my c9 was released, still getting them as recent as earlier this year I think.
- Yizahi 3mo agoJust to clarify - my LG TV is old (10 or maybe 11?), pre-OLED, and webOS on it was version 3.0. Maybe situation has improved with newer models, I don't know. The problem with TVs, is that they really work for a long time just fine and I see no reason to change it ahead of other more needed upgrades. It doesn't fall to the ground like phones, there is no degrading battery or degrading rubber/textile parts, TVs are really robust. So it would have been nice if the software for such long living hardware was also supported accordingly and that buyers would be informed about that in advance and that was my expectation for webOS/LG originally - since it is in C++, uses modern and maintained QT framework, snappy and LG is a bigcorpo, I expected it to keep up. But nope :( .
- Angostura 3mo agoI have mine attached to the internet, but it does take a good 30 minutes plus Googling to find out all the places that you have to turn stuff off.
- windward 3mo ago>I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. We don't need treats this badly.
- tosti 3mo ago3 out of 4 OLED screens in my household suffer from burned pixels. It's the early 90s all over again with OLED.
- mlrtime 3mo agoI have 3 LG OLEDs of all different generation and they all still go great. It is by far the best tv you can get vs other manufacturers.
- account42 3mo agoHow old are these and how often / how long are they turned on? My OLED TV is over two years old now without any issues even though it gets frequent usage.
- matheusmoreira 3mo agoAren't they the only TVs that can be jailbroken?
- bcraven 3mo agoI decided there wasn't much to do if I did: https://www.webosbrew.org/rooting/ https://www.webosbrew.org/rooting/
- secabeen 2mo agoI thought this, but random updates and changes for my apps in dev mode got too annoying; switching to full root has made my apps stable and turned off the prompts to upgrade the OS. It was worth it.
- kaelwd 3mo agoAnd buy what? Smasnug? Sony? They're all uniquely shit.