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If Anthopic had bought all the books it had trained for say at market rate we’d be having a different conversation now. Anthropic, through this settlement, has

If Anthopic had bought all the books it had trained for say at market rate we’d be having a different conversation now. Anthropic, through this settlement, has been forced to pay back, at least something… Kim would likely not have had enough money to compensate the victims and probably caused some more direct dammage by sharing pirated content. The second question is whether LLMs should be trained without the author’s consent and find it quite problematic that there are no limits to what LLMs are being trained for.

nickphx 3mo ago
anthropic etal would not have a product to sell without their violation.. kdc had a service that just happened to be popular for pirating... how are the two even remotely similar?
jamesjhare 3mo ago
the company is valued at basically 1000x the settlement it is a rounding error for them copyright infringement was enough to get judgements that ruined entire lives when i was in my late teens and early 20s now you get to be a founder of a trillion dollar business by extremely large copyright infringement fuck these ghouls fuck LLMs and fuck the waste of money for this shit
dataflow 3mo ago
> Anthropic, through this settlement, has been forced to pay back, at least something… Kim would likely not have had enough money to compensate the victims and probably caused some more direct dammage by sharing pirated content. You're thinking civil. They're talking criminal. Criminal law enforcement does not (well, isn't supposed to) look at your ability to compensate before deciding what to charge you with.
- JAlexoid 3mo ago
  Since we're on the criminal side - what criminal statute would apply to Anthropic? And what criminal statutes were used for the cases we're supposed to compare to?
  - dataflow 3mo ago
    Presumably some of the ones that applied to Aaron Swartz. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Arrest_and_prosecution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Arrest_and_prosec...

nickphx 3mo ago

anthropic etal would not have a product to sell without their violation.. kdc had a service that just happened to be popular for pirating... how are the two even remotely similar?

jamesjhare 3mo ago

the company is valued at basically 1000x the settlement it is a rounding error for them copyright infringement was enough to get judgements that ruined entire lives when i was in my late teens and early 20s now you get to be a founder of a trillion dollar business by extremely large copyright infringement fuck these ghouls fuck LLMs and fuck the waste of money for this shit

dataflow 3mo ago

> Anthropic, through this settlement, has been forced to pay back, at least something… Kim would likely not have had enough money to compensate the victims and probably caused some more direct dammage by sharing pirated content. You're thinking civil. They're talking criminal. Criminal law enforcement does not (well, isn't supposed to) look at your ability to compensate before deciding what to charge you with.

JAlexoid 3mo ago
Since we're on the criminal side - what criminal statute would apply to Anthropic? And what criminal statutes were used for the cases we're supposed to compare to?
- dataflow 3mo ago
  Presumably some of the ones that applied to Aaron Swartz. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Arrest_and_prosecution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Arrest_and_prosec...